Civil Asset Forfeiture

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[00:01:51] All right. Welcome back to the Survival and Basic Badass Podcast with Kevin and Chuck.

[00:01:58] Today, well, we're going to talk about civil asset forfeiture. It's funny because with the election

[00:02:06] coming up, you know, obviously it just happened and whatever. But I was like, oh, well, you know,

[00:02:12] when Kamala Harris wins, the government's going to be like, well, we need more money to give

[00:02:17] everybody $25,000 and to do all these things. And I started thinking about, you know, the ways that

[00:02:23] government gets more money. And one of the things that's really big is, is civil asset forfeiture.

[00:02:29] Now, obviously the election didn't go that way, but this is still going on, whether we have Democrats

[00:02:35] or Republicans. So we can kind of, you know, see what happens here. It really is crazy. People don't

[00:02:43] realize that the government can just come up and take your shit. Like, and it doesn't even have to

[00:02:48] be a lot. Like it could be like, oh, you have $500 in cash. People don't carry that much money.

[00:02:54] That's unreasonable. And I'm like, are you crazy? So there are two things. There's criminal asset

[00:03:03] forfeiture and there's civil asset forfeiture. Now, criminal asset forfeiture, that kind of,

[00:03:11] you could make a case for, right? Like that's like, oh, you know, you're drug running and you're in the

[00:03:17] speedboat and the speedboat is filled with cocaine all in the hole. And they're like, yeah,

[00:03:24] we're just going to keep this boat. You're going to prison because we found all this cocaine.

[00:03:29] You were in the boat. We convicted you, a jury of your peers. That's one thing that I could see.

[00:03:36] Now, another, another way they use that a lot though, is when they can't convict somebody.

[00:03:43] In other words, that's when it's civil. Yeah. That's when it's civil asset forfeiture.

[00:03:49] And the criminal is when they're convicted and whatever. Now, again, that's, as you're going to

[00:03:55] see in this episode, it's a slippery slope and it, you see how it can go very bad where I kind of feel

[00:04:02] like, eh, maybe you shouldn't have this at all because you just are fucked up. Um, it was a big

[00:04:09] thing. And then the argument is, well, we use it to stop the cartels and the Russian oligarchs,

[00:04:16] you know, the oligarchs. I don't know who these oligarchs are, but there's a lot of them out there

[00:04:21] and, and they're doing bad things and somehow we can't convict them. So we're just stealing their

[00:04:26] shit. That's the argument, right? Like it's well, it's a way to punish the stuff is here,

[00:04:33] but they're in Russia. So this is a way we can punish them. But instead we're just like taking

[00:04:40] Marines money and you know, like normal, happy people going to see their kids on vacation and

[00:04:47] Hey, we're going to Disney world. We have two grand and we're going to just take your money

[00:04:53] because you know, fuck you. One of the big ones, like all the stories I kept seeing are like in

[00:04:59] Nevada. And that seemed to be the recurring theme. I pretty much, and, and it's weird because you

[00:05:06] would expect people would have large amounts of cash in Nevada. Like that would be the state

[00:05:11] where like, Hey, I'm going to Vegas. I saved up five grand. I'm going to go there with it and

[00:05:18] have a good time. And then, Hey, maybe there's a slim chance. I even won money and I'm coming back

[00:05:23] with more money. Right. Oh, no, I don't think so. It's nefarious. I'm going to take it from you.

[00:05:30] And so, yeah. So when the policeman says, do you have large amounts of cash in the car? Be like,

[00:05:35] no. And then when they find it and they're like, what's this five grand? And you just be like, Hey,

[00:05:41] you said large amounts of cash. See what I did there? Yeah. And be like, just cause you got

[00:05:48] seized in high school. Does it mean that, you know, I'm broke five grand, five grand is a lot

[00:05:55] to you. It might not be to me. The messed up thing is though, that a lot of these people that have

[00:06:02] their money seized in these situations, it's all their money. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like it's,

[00:06:08] it's because they took it out of the bank to use it for something. Yes. And that's it. It's how are

[00:06:15] you going to hire a lawyer when they took the only $8,000 you had? Right. Well, let's so, yeah,

[00:06:22] so there's civil and whatever. Now the thing is with civil asset forfeiture, and this is why this is a

[00:06:28] dangerous road. We're going to get into some cases and kind of discuss it here. But the thing is the

[00:06:35] burden of proof is on you to where the money came from and that you intended to have it for like legal

[00:06:43] purposes. It could even be that you earned it, but then you were like, yeah, but I was going to go buy

[00:06:48] drugs with it. So, you know, right. You know, but I didn't go buy drugs. I just had it in my car

[00:06:54] and you just came up with this shit. Bullshit. But anyway, so that's the thing is. And so it's funny

[00:07:02] because they actually have criminal cases that are stupid that are like us verse $8,850.

[00:07:11] And that's what it's called. So it's the money has to prove it's innocent, not you. And like,

[00:07:19] it'll be, uh, there was one, there was, there's some guy as a show on HBO, I was watching his thing

[00:07:25] about this and he mentioned some, and it was like us verse 10 crates of shark fins. And you're like,

[00:07:35] well, are the shark fins innocent? Are they, you know, it's, it's hard to say. Um, but it makes

[00:07:42] it hard to prove when it's just stupid. Right. I don't know. Stupid is like, do you know where every

[00:07:48] dollar you made came from? Like it came from the bank at some point, but I don't, I used, I took it

[00:07:53] out over time. I bought some, you know, whatever with it. And now I just went and sold my tractor

[00:08:00] and now I have five grand, like whatever. It's like, I paid to get a roof done. That was a lot

[00:08:07] of money. I had to go get to the bank and take out a lot of money. And I was going to go give it to

[00:08:11] the roofer. And you're saying, well, Chuck, in an instance like that, the government, you would have

[00:08:17] proof. You'd be like, look, I just take it out of the bank. And here's my bill for the roof.

[00:08:21] That's the same amount. Obviously I want to drive by drugs. So you're like, oh, that makes

[00:08:27] perfect sense. No, they'll still take that shit. They don't even care. Let me give you an example.

[00:08:33] You're like, Chuck, there can't be an example. There is, there's a guy, George Reby. All right.

[00:08:39] He got stopped at a traffic stop. He had $20,000 in cash in the traffic stop. Now the guy had just

[00:08:49] taken it out of the bank and wait, work for it here. He had a winning bid that he showed the

[00:08:57] policeman on his phone for a car for $20,000. And it's like, Hey, I'm going to buy this car.

[00:09:04] Look, here's the thing. And they're like, no, no, we think you're going to buy drugs with it.

[00:09:11] And he's like, but no, it's right here. Like, look at it. And then, so they're interviewing the cop

[00:09:18] after it. Cause there was like a local news story that I'm watching and they're interviewing the cop

[00:09:23] and they're like, but how come you didn't put in your report that he showed you that he had just

[00:09:29] bought a car on eBay for $20,000. And the cop's just like, well, I don't know.

[00:09:37] I don't know why I didn't do that. Yeah. And that's good enough. That's a good enough.

[00:09:41] They're like, Oh yeah, that makes it. The guy didn't get his money back. Like, fuck you. You

[00:09:45] know, like Philadelphia, listen, how crazy this is in Philadelphia. They, they have taken over a

[00:09:56] thousand houses and 3000 vehicles with civil asset forfeiture. Now drug houses, right? Cause and you're

[00:10:07] like, Oh, so a family has a house. Their 22 year old son got caught with $40 of heroin, but they were

[00:10:18] like, well, have you ever sold it out of your house? And he's like, well, yeah, one time a friend came

[00:10:22] over and bought some heroin from me. Like we split it and whatever. And they seized the family's house.

[00:10:29] So, you know, like, fuck you. Right. I don't even know how that works with like the bank where the

[00:10:34] bank's like, um, well, you still owe us this big mortgage. Cause I'll imagine.

[00:10:40] I mean, you still owe it, right? You don't get out of your loan because somebody took your house.

[00:10:44] Right. And you're just, yeah, that's bad. I mean, it, I don't know, a thousand houses.

[00:10:50] Um, well, let's talk about like, I don't know. Did you have any cases that, that struck you or?

[00:10:57] No. Well, you know what? First off, let me, let me start by reading the fifth amendment

[00:11:06] because there's a lot of info in there. Now there's a couple of things here that don't apply

[00:11:12] and there's some that do. So just, uh, keep your ears open. No person should be held to answer for a

[00:11:17] capital or otherwise infamous crime unless, uh, presentment or indictment of a grand jury,

[00:11:25] except in any, in cases arising in the land or naval forces or in the militia when an actual time of

[00:11:31] war or public danger, nor shall any person be subject to the same offense twice put in jeopardy of life

[00:11:37] or limb, nor shall be compelled in any case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life,

[00:11:46] liberty or property without due process of law, nor shall private property be taken for public use

[00:11:52] without just compensation. Now the important part there is that nor be deprived of life,

[00:11:58] liberty or property without due process of law. You think that seems like pretty straightforward?

[00:12:04] Like that seems pretty fucking obvious what that means. So what's happening is people are being,

[00:12:12] having, having their, their money taken, their property seized without, you know, without, uh, um,

[00:12:23] due process. So now there are a couple of incidents, uh, one that I was just reading about,

[00:12:31] um, where they went in, they, uh, were serving a civil war. Uh, the guy wasn't home. So,

[00:12:38] you know, they told him to come back a couple hours later. Sure. All right. But the police officer

[00:12:45] thought he smelled marijuana when he was at the door. Who doesn't smell? Yeah. I mean, I, I have been

[00:12:53] pulled over multiple times and had the officer tell me that they smelled marijuana or alcohol.

[00:13:01] So Kevin, is that cause you smell marijuana? I actually have marijuana cologne that I wear out.

[00:13:07] Yeah. They confuse the patchouli with the, uh, with marijuana. I've never had my car, uh,

[00:13:15] impounded, impounded. I've never had anyone accuse me of those things and then find out it was true.

[00:13:22] Um, I've had people search my car cause they thought they smelled marijuana and then they

[00:13:27] didn't smell it. It turns out there's no marijuana at all, but you can just say, you think whatever

[00:13:32] you want and that's fine. Right. But I didn't hear you say there wasn't marijuana in the car.

[00:13:38] No, what I said was they never found marijuana in my car. You didn't say that. Yeah. All right.

[00:13:42] So regardless, they smelled marijuana. They claimed to smell marijuana. And when the police came back,

[00:13:50] they threw a flashbang through the window of your, they didn't, you know, they didn't like come and

[00:13:54] knock on the door and be like, Hey, you know, they told us to come back a couple hours. Here's

[00:13:58] your paperwork. No, they threw a flashbang through the arrested at both people search the house

[00:14:04] seize money. They seized the wedding ring, uh, and a coin collection. I bet you that wedding ring was used

[00:14:11] in the commission of a crime, right? They never found any marijuana. Well, yeah, but those people

[00:14:17] never got their stuff back. That wedding ring, that coin collection, that's gone. That's gone.

[00:14:22] They get to keep that. Um, so they were never convicted of anything. They were never found guilty

[00:14:29] of anything, but they still lost their property. Yeah. There's a Marine, Steven Lara, and this is a

[00:14:37] lot of money and I don't really understand it, but I understand that it turns out it's none of my

[00:14:43] fucking business. Right. Fifth amendment says you're secure in your shit, right? Right. This guy was

[00:14:49] driving up to California again through Nevada from like Texas, California. And you know, I understand

[00:14:56] they kind of touch each other and you don't have to go through Nevada, but he made the mistake of

[00:15:00] driving through Nevada. And he said that he didn't trust banks reasonable. I don't trust banks. Um,

[00:15:09] he had his life savings and it was $87,000. Now they didn't charge them with anything. They didn't

[00:15:18] give them a traffic ticket, nothing. Oh, that's a lot of money. And they just took it. And like,

[00:15:24] fuck you. Like, you know, and he's like, um, no. And they were like, no, fuck you. Or I got another

[00:15:32] one. Right. All right. This guy, this is out of the Washington post guy in Michigan, again,

[00:15:39] driving from Michigan to San Francisco made the mistake driving through Nevada.

[00:15:45] And he gets pulled over with the huge sum of $2,400 because come on. And they were like,

[00:15:55] obviously you are going to go buy drugs. And he's like in San Francisco, in San Francisco,

[00:16:05] from Michigan. Cause there's no drugs in Michigan. Right. Cause like Chicago, dry County and shit.

[00:16:11] Right. Like, you know, it's like, you're practically leaving Amish town when you leave, you know,

[00:16:17] Chicago. And he had to go and they were like, you know, that's obvious. And he's like, no,

[00:16:22] this is just like all my money. And you know, you're doing a road trip. You don't know what's

[00:16:26] going to come up. I take cash when I go on things. Um, they actually said that since nine 11,

[00:16:34] which I think that was one of the, where we started taking a lot more shit, right? Like after nine 11,

[00:16:39] all of a sudden the cops felt entitled to, you know, steal shit more. Um, 61,999, 98, 998 people

[00:16:51] have had their shit taken, but wait, without ever being convicted of any crime at all.

[00:16:59] That's insane. I, it just, the, the feds have ceased in the last five years, just since two 2020,

[00:17:10] since 2020, the feds have seized over 50 billion billion dollars and the States have seized over

[00:17:19] nine billion dollars. Um, so there is something called the fifth amendment restoration act,

[00:17:27] um, that we were trying to get past. That was one of these Rand Paul kind of things,

[00:17:33] you know, cause he's that crazy right wing kook. He is kind of crazy. And that whole get beat up by

[00:17:39] your neighbor thing. I, there was some weirdness going on there, but just the same, that was a legit

[00:17:46] thing that I think would actually helped us if we could pan that out. Um, it's just a mess out there,

[00:17:53] Kevin. They're just taking shit. They don't care. The government basically free for all.

[00:18:00] You smoke the marijuana and they're coming for your shit. But even if you don't smoke the marijuana,

[00:18:07] you know, Oh, you look like, I don't know. It just doesn't add up. And well, you know,

[00:18:13] it's a little, yeah, at least can say that they smell anything they want. Yeah. And they can also

[00:18:18] get their, the dog out there to search. And the trick with the dog though, is the dog always alerts.

[00:18:26] What? So when the dog comes out there and they said, well, we'll see if the dog smells it. Well,

[00:18:31] the dog does smell it because that's what they're supposed to do. So they'd sniff her out and they

[00:18:35] realize it's not there. And then they just alert anyway, because you know, that's what their,

[00:18:39] their handler wants them to do. So then they can search your car and rummage through all your stuff,

[00:18:45] even though they just made it up. So, you know, it's good news for you.

[00:18:52] Good news for you. Um, yeah, now there are some States that are like, Hey, this is unreasonable.

[00:18:59] We're not going to allow this shit. So we have Maine, Nebraska, North Carolina, and New Mexico.

[00:19:05] Right. You're thinking, well, Chuck, there's 50 States and you only named four. Yeah. Well,

[00:19:11] not a lot of people have your back, but don't worry. Those States can still get theirs. Cause

[00:19:17] if they seize your property and the federal government comes over and takes it, that's legit.

[00:19:25] Just the state camp. Right. Then the federal government says, Hey, good, fine. Kevin.

[00:19:33] I can't even imagine what kind of world where this makes sense. That's the whole problem.

[00:19:38] Yeah. Well, good news. It made it up to the Supreme court. Okay. Supreme court says it's fine.

[00:19:45] Oh, well, yeah. But having, I guess the judges on the Supreme court haven't gone through the bill

[00:19:52] rights. They don't, they're not really amendments are hard, Kevin. I mean, it's not in the main

[00:19:57] document. You got to flip back to that other page. Yeah. Yeah. It can be tricky. It can be,

[00:20:04] can be tricky. A lot of words and they wrote it in cursive. So I mean, how are you going to even

[00:20:09] figure that shit out? Now, Brett Kavanaugh said that in his ruling, he said that you ultimately,

[00:20:17] you do have to have a trial, but you have to prove your innocence. They don't have to prove

[00:20:25] the guilt. Right. So, and also you don't get to keep that stuff in between. You know what I mean?

[00:20:33] Like if they seize your money, you don't get it back until after you can prove that you got it

[00:20:38] legally. And obviously if you had it out, you were like making a move, right? Something was happening.

[00:20:43] I mean, this is going to cost you, you know, you need, Oh, you need a lawyer. You're going to have to

[00:20:49] find that money somewhere else. Yeah. No, it's just a mess. And the thing is, so one of the things,

[00:20:56] like they say, it's a tax on poor people. One of the things, a lot of the people were experiencing

[00:21:01] was, and I actually saw a cop saying this, he's like, well, what we do is we say, if thing is,

[00:21:09] we're going to take this. And right now we're not charging you with anything, but if you appeal this,

[00:21:15] we're going to send you a letter and, you know, stating this. And if you appeal it and try and come

[00:21:22] back, we're going to charge you with money laundering. Cause why do you have that cash?

[00:21:26] Right. And then for sure you are going to be convicted of something. So I'd recommend not

[00:21:31] saying anything. And then people are like, Oh shit. You know, I don't, I don't want any trouble.

[00:21:36] And is it worth eight grand and lawyers? And, and you talk to a lawyer and they're like, yeah,

[00:21:41] that shit's gone. Just, yeah. Just let it go. You're not getting that back.

[00:21:45] Not getting that back. So that's, that's where it becomes a dangerous road. Um, and they're down

[00:21:53] for this. I mean, they're just taking shit. I mean, shit. Look at Katrina when they took

[00:21:58] everybody's guns and they're like, Oh, you don't have the receipt from when you bought this gun.

[00:22:03] And then people are like, but my house washed away. Like it's not even there. Like it was in the gun safe,

[00:22:09] but I don't know where the gun safe is. And they're like, no, no, but you took my gun. Look,

[00:22:15] I signed right here. And no, no, fuck you. That's, that's what we're dealing with.

[00:22:23] Yeah. So, I mean, you know, hypothetically, this is a free country and you've got rights.

[00:22:28] Like in a movie. Yeah. Right. Right. But, and you have rights, but, um, I mean,

[00:22:34] it doesn't really count. Um, unless you're rich, it doesn't really work for you. They did get a

[00:22:41] state representative. Okay. Uh, what was that? I read it and I don't remember it, but they got a

[00:22:47] state representative and it was a big deal. And he ended up getting his money back, but it cost him

[00:22:52] over a hundred thousand dollars to get the $240,000, whatever it was. He paid a good portion of that just

[00:22:59] in lawyer fees just to get his own property back. Well, and who doesn't keep a lot of cash in foil

[00:23:05] in your freezer too? I mean, that is a, that is a big thing. And honestly, I don't know what his deal

[00:23:11] was, but you know, it's all, uh, it's all good. You know, they say it's a life's a shit sandwich,

[00:23:19] but the more bread you have, the less shit you got to eat. Is that right? You just kind of spread it out.

[00:23:24] Yeah. That's how it works. Dude, that's, that's, I think what it always comes down to, you know,

[00:23:29] every episode, I feel like I end with be self-sufficient. Don't go anywhere. Just stay

[00:23:35] on your land, hunting, fishing, loving every day, right? Just build a compound and don't go anywhere

[00:23:41] because fuck the police. I mean, yeah. Yep. Yep. Uh, shit. So, so when it comes to, uh,

[00:23:52] civil asset forfeiture, uh, there's not a whole lot you can do about it. Um, I recommend getting

[00:23:58] a law degree, uh, spend all your money on a law degree rather than carrying it around on your

[00:24:03] person. Don't carry it in your vehicle. Um, I mean, you say stay in your house and don't go

[00:24:10] anywhere, but that person that, uh, you know, the, where the police smelled marijuana, they didn't

[00:24:16] go anywhere either. And they still had their shit. I mean, if you're in Philadelphia, they might just

[00:24:20] drop a bomb on your house. I mean, you know, whatever. Yeah. Did I didn't know that, but

[00:24:25] apparently you can just bomb houses with, with kids and shit in it too. You know, we got a

[00:24:30] helicopter. We got these really big bombs. We have nothing to do with. Yep. It's cool. Do you think

[00:24:38] like, it was like a guy holding it and he's like, I'm going to push it out. Like they, I don't even

[00:24:44] know how that works. Yeah. No, you know, I never got clear, clear on that, where that bomb came from,

[00:24:49] but I mean, they did have it and they used it. So yeah, it's a mess. Um, but it really comes down

[00:24:57] to just protect your, you know, I guess voting has consequences, right? It really matters what you,

[00:25:05] you know, who you interact with, who you hang out with, you know, I mean, a lot of it is perception

[00:25:10] and what they think they can get away with, but you'd never know when you're going to come across

[00:25:15] the guy who's like, you know, full on crazy and, and ready to take your stuff. There's always

[00:25:21] psychos out there and some of them work for the government. I'm just saying. Yeah. Yeah. If you

[00:25:28] want to like beat the shit out of people, if that's like your fucking hobby, you're going to end up

[00:25:32] in prison or unless you get a job at law enforcement and then it's cool. Kevin,

[00:25:40] there are good cops out there. I have a couple of bad apples and they, they spoil the bunch,

[00:25:48] right? Yeah. So if you're a police officer and one of the people that you work with is a shit bag

[00:25:53] and you don't do anything about it, you're also a shit bag. That's my opinion. Kevin, you're mean,

[00:26:01] mean Kevin, mean. Yeah. If you ever want to get advanced in law enforcement though, okay. Don't ever

[00:26:10] like get involved in a internal affairs or anything like that. Or snitching. Yeah. Don't investigate law

[00:26:18] enforcement because you're, yeah, you're done. Your career is over. Hey, I think this guy's corrupt. Hey,

[00:26:23] look at him harassing people. It never ends well on the TV shows. I know that when you, you know, say,

[00:26:29] Hey, my buddy's doing something bad that doesn't ever end. Well, I don't know, Kevin, it's an ugly

[00:26:37] world out there. And, but that's the thing. I just worry as cause right now the spending is so out of

[00:26:44] control in Washington and $7 trillion a year. Obviously in your mind, you're like, Oh, well now

[00:26:53] we have a new president. Everything's going to be fine. Well, it turns out Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae

[00:26:58] are both saying they have so many houses in foreclosure that it's like worse than 2008.

[00:27:05] Like that, that bomb's about to drop. It's, it's really not good. People are having a tough time with

[00:27:11] money and the government is like, well, the only way we know how to get more money is to tax the

[00:27:18] shit out of you. And, you know, and, and I know you're like, well, we're going to have Republicans

[00:27:23] and maybe they'll just print the money instead of just taking it from me. No, no, no. It's,

[00:27:28] it's, it's debt called deficit spending. You just spend the money. You don't have to have the money

[00:27:35] because I mean, that's somebody else's problem now. You know what I mean? You don't have to pay it

[00:27:39] back. Your kids have to pay back, pay back the national debt. That's their problem.

[00:27:43] You know what I mean? We can spend the money now and fuck those kids. You know what I mean?

[00:27:49] And so that's the thing is there's just so much money being created through deficit spending,

[00:27:56] through printing, whatever. And we're just insane. Right. So we don't have,

[00:28:05] we don't have anything good going on there. I don't know. I just got distracted. Sorry. The,

[00:28:12] the deal is there's so much money being created and inflation is out of control. And then the

[00:28:19] government gets desperate. Like that's one of the things I was just talking about. People were like,

[00:28:24] oh, well, you know, why would you be opposed to them doing sex changes in the prison? And I'm like,

[00:28:29] because we can't afford to even keep the criminals in the prison, let alone offer all these extra

[00:28:36] benefits. We don't have the money. The same thing with, you know, people coming across the border who

[00:28:43] hadn't, you know, we didn't have the infrastructure. We can't afford it. And that's where the problem

[00:28:49] runs in. It's not a matter of being nice. What happens is when you spend all the money,

[00:28:54] you have nothing left. And then we're just kind of screwed. And then all of a sudden we have to start

[00:29:00] letting people out of prison who are less than desirable because we can't afford to keep them

[00:29:05] there. Or maybe we need to start, you know, cutting benefits to people. God forbid, right? If we start

[00:29:17] cutting benefits to people, people get angry. It's always been this way. You give me money,

[00:29:22] they get angry. And now we have all these criminals. We have all these angry people and

[00:29:27] the government's like, oh shit, we need more money. Well, asset forfeiture is one of the things they do

[00:29:34] to, Hey, let's, let's bring some money back in. We can just start stealing it from people.

[00:29:39] And look, there's all these crimes going on. Look, there's a car. It was stolen because we arrested

[00:29:46] the guy who stole it. So clearly it was a stolen car. We should seize it. I don't know if it's quite

[00:29:52] that bad, but I feel like we're close to that. Things are getting a little hairy out there, Kevin.

[00:29:59] You probably didn't notice, but it's a little scary out there. Yeah. People are a little wild, man.

[00:30:05] It's been going on for a while. Things are ramping up. You know, I'm going to be honest with you.

[00:30:11] I've been, I've been getting ready for this for years. So, I mean, we'll see what happens. We'll

[00:30:14] see what happens. It's going to get a little wild. I mean, if you're not, if you're not prepping,

[00:30:19] if you're not prepared to be out of work for a while or to have a massive debt thrown on you that

[00:30:25] you had no idea was coming, I recommend stocking up now. Yeah. That's, that's the whole thing is,

[00:30:33] I don't know which way they're going to hammer you with, you know, trauma, but it's coming.

[00:30:38] I know the Republicans won, so everything's good, but I'm telling you, we're in a pretty big mess

[00:30:44] right now and it doesn't matter who's steering the ship. When the iceberg's right in front of you,

[00:30:49] it gets a little scary out there. Yeah. And if you're making less than $400,000 a year,

[00:30:55] your taxes are going up. You know what I mean? They went up last year. They're going up again next

[00:31:00] year. They went up this year. If nothing else, your property taxes, you know, or you're being

[00:31:06] taxed through inflation. You know, how many times have we heard that, you know? And that's true.

[00:31:11] I mean, that's what happens is inflation, you know, it keeps getting higher and we just,

[00:31:17] you know, keep paying. Yeah. Now, uh, if you're planning on making purchases,

[00:31:23] they're going to save you money now, you know, versus expenses, um, in, you know, future expenses,

[00:31:29] you want to focus on electronics. That's the stuff that's going to,

[00:31:32] that's the future that's going to shoot through the roof, the prices of electronics.

[00:31:37] So buy your new iPhone now. Yeah. This might be your last chance to afford one.

[00:31:42] You know, I, after that, it's only going to be leasing things from, from those companies. You

[00:31:46] know what I mean? You never own anything. You're going to not own anything and be happy about it.

[00:31:50] You know, I mean, it already is the case that your iPhone, you don't really own that shit.

[00:31:55] You know what I mean? You can use it. They let you use it, but all the information that you use

[00:32:00] on that is accessible to, I don't know, corporations, government, anybody that's

[00:32:06] interested in looking into it. So. Oh man. My bank just put a new app, you know,

[00:32:11] you needed a new app to use the online banking or something. And, uh, it was like 50 pages,

[00:32:19] the user agreement. And I'm like, really? Like some of them are like obvious, you know,

[00:32:23] you're like, Oh yeah, there's like five sections. It's a page. This thing was just scrolling and

[00:32:28] scrolling. And I'm like, Oh my God, like you really intend. And what are you going to do?

[00:32:33] Well, I'm not going to bank anymore. Like it just. Right. Right. And I'm sure in there somewhere.

[00:32:40] Yeah. There's a hundred different ways to fuck you over. Yeah. We lose all your money. Your problem.

[00:32:45] Government wants to take your money and we're cool with it. Yep. Your problem. You know,

[00:32:50] it's whatever. It just, I don't know. That is out of control, but anyway, we'd appreciate if you guys

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[00:33:18] Bye.