Freedom Or Socialism?

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[00:01:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Low-Ri welcome back to the Survival and Basic Badass Podcast, Kevin and Chuck.

[00:01:27] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I've done it before, but we're going to do it again.

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about socialism.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Every time elections roll around, I get a little rattled and I'm like, oh, the world's

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_01]: ending.

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_01]: World is ending.

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We're all going to die.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And you know how it is.

[00:01:43] [SPEAKER_01]: So here's a, you know, we're not going to plug parties one way or the other.

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Now some of you secretly in your heart of hearts, you're going to be like, well, if he doesn't

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_01]: like socialism, he's going to talk bad about Kamala Harris.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_01]: But Kevin has some things to say about Donald Trump in regards to socialism and Republicans

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_01]: in general.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe keep an open mind and we'll see where we end up.

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a broad spectrum.

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_01]: If you do appreciate Kevin's enthusiasm, make sure you like and subscribe.

[00:02:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And if you have things to say about how you think we're both dumb, a bunch of these calls

[00:02:24] [SPEAKER_01]: all kinds of horrible things in the comments, Kevin.

[00:02:26] [SPEAKER_01]: I would encourage that.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_01]: I would recommend no profanity, but I would say go for it in the comments.

[00:02:33] [SPEAKER_01]: You want to say that Kevin's ugly?

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm down as many comments as you want to put.

[00:02:38] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm down.

[00:02:41] [SPEAKER_01]: But with that, so there is a bunch of stuff going on and we really are heading down a road

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_01]: of government control where they just seem to take more and more power, both on the conservative

[00:02:57] [SPEAKER_01]: side and the left leaning side.

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_01]: First Kevin, I know you're big on definitions.

[00:03:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's break down what is socialism and maybe we even kind of socialism, capitalism and communism

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_01]: and where that distinction is.

[00:03:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I mean, there's a, there's a, obviously a debt, a specific definition, but

[00:03:21] [SPEAKER_00]: I would consider socialism public control of, of government control of business and

[00:03:31] [SPEAKER_00]: the means of production.

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's a hundred percent.

[00:03:35] [SPEAKER_01]: So in the definitions I looked up, the big thing was socialism is control over essential

[00:03:45] [SPEAKER_01]: business and then other stuff kind of like had varying degrees of government influence.

[00:03:52] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll say that.

[00:03:54] [SPEAKER_01]: And so it was basically a lot of that ends up with like the things that concern me are

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_01]: like you end up having price controls.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_01]: You have how much production can be, you know, implemented that kind of thing.

[00:04:10] [SPEAKER_01]: That kind of stuff typically comes from socialism.

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin, you would agree with that statement?

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd agree.

[00:04:16] [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's important before we get started to talk about the difference between socialism

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_00]: and communism.

[00:04:24] [SPEAKER_00]: Communism is basically socialism, but the people that work at the factory are their

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_00]: own little, you know, their own little group.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_00]: And, and each person is elected to from the workers to dictate how the factory runs and

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_00]: that sort of thing.

[00:04:45] [SPEAKER_00]: So there's, there's differences, but it's very similar.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_01]: You might reflect on the 21st century motor company and Atlas Shrugged, but you don't

[00:04:55] [SPEAKER_01]: worry about it.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_01]: If you don't read books, it's okay.

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's a, here's the thing.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Communism.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, one, one of the things I didn't touch on typically with socialism, you still kind

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_01]: of have private ownership of stuff in your own life.

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't mean private ownership of your business, but you would typically like own your house.

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_01]: You would have your own food, your own stuff.

[00:05:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You would still go to the store with money and buy stuff.

[00:05:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Whereas communism, it's supposed to be more pretty much straight owned by the collective,

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_01]: right?

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't really own anything.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_01]: And in that you, you just kind of are given what you need.

[00:05:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's weird.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_01]: So the idea, a lot of the definitions I read, communism in the past has never been achieved

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_01]: in its true form by a big government, right?

[00:05:53] [SPEAKER_01]: It might be achieved on a small like compound that you have.

[00:05:58] [SPEAKER_00]: You might have that, that may, and there's actually a long history of those small communes,

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_00]: communist communes in the United States, you know, to be honest, even today, even the family

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_01]: unit is kind of like that, right?

[00:06:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Like if you take care of your baby and you give it food, even though it doesn't do anything

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_01]: or get a fucking job, baby, geez, still, you know, Hey, he gets healthcare and you

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_01]: know, whatever.

[00:06:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Then that's in a way communism, right?

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's at the small unit and that works, right?

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:06:28] [SPEAKER_01]: Y'all are in love in and whatever.

[00:06:31] [SPEAKER_01]: What's typically happened with communism has been, we get a dictator.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:06:38] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's like, well, I have to be in charge and organized, but don't worry.

[00:06:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I care about you and I'm going to do the right thing for all of you.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to rule with an iron fist.

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But somehow some of us, they always there, there's that book animal farm that kind of

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_01]: breaks it down and animal farm.

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They always used to say, well, some of us are more equal than others.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, wait, wait, what?

[00:07:04] [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't make any sense.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_01]: But that's so anyway, now that we got the ugly little discussions out of the way and

[00:07:12] [SPEAKER_01]: kind of what we're talking about, why would I be so brash as to say that America is heading

[00:07:20] [SPEAKER_01]: down that road?

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:07:21] [SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're all asking.

[00:07:22] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, Chuck, we all love freedom and, and whatever.

[00:07:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, these are the things that are starting to concern me.

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And because I feel like, like it's not really true that we maybe don't all love freedom.

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_01]: Me and Kevin love freedom.

[00:07:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin, you love freedom?

[00:07:41] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolute.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_01]: A little too far.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We could use the word anarchy.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:07:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: You know?

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:07:51] [SPEAKER_01]: That's one road.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think by by true definition, Kevin really fits in a true anarchy, but he's

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_01]: a lot closer than, than you might want to think.

[00:08:04] [SPEAKER_01]: So with that, the the things like that are concerning me is, is I'm seeing Kamala saying

[00:08:13] [SPEAKER_01]: things like we don't need equal out or we don't, we don't need to be equal in America.

[00:08:20] [SPEAKER_01]: We need to have equal equity.

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, well, what are you talking about?

[00:08:24] [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't make any sense.

[00:08:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, apparently equal equity means not only do we all, she says equality, we all start

[00:08:33] [SPEAKER_01]: at the same point.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:08:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Equal equity means we all end at the same point.

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not my interpretation of the word equity.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_01]: That's her interpretation of the word equity.

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_01]: And you can look that up.

[00:08:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Look that up.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_01]: She's saying it all day long.

[00:08:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I decided I need to start getting away from, uh, from playing all these clips of these

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_01]: stupid politicians because it's just dumb and I don't like them.

[00:08:59] [SPEAKER_01]: And we're just going to go with my words.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Equal equity.

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_01]: Trust me, you don't like it.

[00:09:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Look it up.

[00:09:05] [SPEAKER_01]: She said it.

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin thoughts?

[00:09:07] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I think that that's, that's probably the stupidest fucking thing I ever

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_00]: heard in my life.

[00:09:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, one, I would say that the most important thing that we can do, the best thing

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_00]: we can do is have everybody starting at the same point.

[00:09:25] [SPEAKER_00]: That's what we should focus on.

[00:09:27] [SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

[00:09:28] [SPEAKER_00]: We should all have the same opportunities.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but Kevin, what if, what if you want the best for your kids and you work really

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_01]: hard to leave them nice things?

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_00]: Then that, that works.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: That works.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're a lazy piece of shit and you want the best things for your kids, then you're

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_00]: just a fucking asshole that wants more than they deserve.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:09:49] [SPEAKER_01]: I see where you're going with that.

[00:09:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, yeah.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_01]: So these are the things that now you're saying, well, Chuck, well, I don't, I don't really

[00:09:58] [SPEAKER_01]: see it being implemented into our lives.

[00:10:00] [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about it.

[00:10:02] [SPEAKER_01]: So some of the things that concern me, um, well, we're going to talk about a lot of things.

[00:10:06] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about schools.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about taxes.

[00:10:10] [SPEAKER_01]: Let's start with taxes.

[00:10:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Taxes seem to be everybody's biggest fear.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, there, there's a tax bill that was proposed under Biden and Kamala is saying, if we, you

[00:10:21] [SPEAKER_01]: know, start things, we're going to, this is what I want to do.

[00:10:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, basically it takes the corporate tax rate, which is currently 21%.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_01]: Now it was 28% prior to Trump coming in and about two years in, he got it changed to 21%.

[00:10:39] [SPEAKER_01]: Um, she wants to bring that back to 28%.

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Now you're saying, well, Chuck, why does that matter?

[00:10:45] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't care about corporations.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they pay those taxes, not me.

[00:10:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's not how a business model typically works.

[00:10:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The way a business model works is it's funny.

[00:10:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It really came out when oil prices went up and they were talking about greedy oil companies,

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_01]: but they basically said we need to make this much profit when they write their model.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:11:09] [SPEAKER_01]: So I know Exxon, the big example was Exxon Mobil said we make 10% profit.

[00:11:16] [SPEAKER_01]: So if gas is selling for a dollar a gallon, they're getting 10 cents a gallon, right?

[00:11:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the whole scheme of things.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_01]: But if gas is selling for $4 a gallon, they're getting 40 cents a gallon.

[00:11:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So in a way, the people are getting screwed and those evil corporations are getting record

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_01]: profits.

[00:11:38] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's what they always, you know, pushed.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, as a corporation, we have an obligation to the stakeholders to have record profits

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_00]: every single year.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_00]: It always has to increase.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_00]: The law says every decision you make according to what is it?

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_01]: The Federal Trade Commission, FTC.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're involved with that.

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_01]: They say that you have to act in the best interest of your shareholders or you're defrauding

[00:12:07] [SPEAKER_01]: people.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_01]: So you're not acting in the best interest of the environment, of your acting in the

[00:12:14] [SPEAKER_01]: best interest of your customers or anyone.

[00:12:16] [SPEAKER_01]: Your bottom line, you have to by law make the decisions that, and that sounds like evil

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_01]: capitalism.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, because that's government controls over a business.

[00:12:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Capitalism says you can have a company and do whatever you want.

[00:12:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And as much or as little as you want.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_01]: That's your call.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_01]: You do you, that's the beauty of it.

[00:12:38] [SPEAKER_01]: So no problem.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, a little off task there.

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is that corporate tax rate, it's not going to be the company that's paying

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: it.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to pass that cost onto the customer or they're going to pass it on to, we're going

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_01]: to have less employees and do more with less.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you guys, now you can do your job and Johnny's job.

[00:13:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that kind of sucks for me because now we're still going to get that profit.

[00:13:07] [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the-

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_00]: They fire somebody, lay somebody off and that now you have two jobs.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you have two jobs.

[00:13:12] [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like a promotion, but we're not going to give you more money.

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It's just going to-

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: Just more work.

[00:13:17] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll call you something more important.

[00:13:19] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be like, now you're Kevin plus instead of just Kevin.

[00:13:23] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I've gotten those promotions too where I got an increase in responsibility and a

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_00]: new title, but still got paid the same amount of money.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:13:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's number one.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Next, they want to increase capital gains taxes.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Now that's when you make lots of money in the stock market and you sell all your stocks

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_01]: and you're like, woohoo, I'm rich.

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to tax you at 44.6%.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty significant, I got to say.

[00:13:52] [SPEAKER_01]: That's a good kick in the nuts is what I would say to that one.

[00:13:59] [SPEAKER_01]: The deal is with that is you have one year and you lose your ass, right?

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_01]: The market just collapses like it did about a month ago.

[00:14:11] [SPEAKER_01]: It's come back up.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not trying to be dramatic.

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying about a month ago, we took a big hit, right?

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_01]: It went down like 8%.

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_01]: If you got scared and we're like, oh, and you're a bad investor.

[00:14:23] [SPEAKER_01]: You're like, oh God, everything's falling.

[00:14:25] [SPEAKER_01]: The sky is falling.

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_01]: Sell everything and you sold everything and you lost 50% of your money.

[00:14:32] [SPEAKER_01]: You know how much the government's given you?

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_01]: None of it.

[00:14:36] [SPEAKER_01]: They ain't giving you nothing.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of how that works.

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_01]: But then the next year, now in the same year, really every time you sell it, you can like

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_01]: offset your sales and gains in a year and it averages out.

[00:14:53] [SPEAKER_01]: But the bottom line is you never get paid for taking a risk.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_01]: The risk is all on you.

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the bottom line.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's all I really need to say about that.

[00:15:03] [SPEAKER_01]: So the next one, and this is where I feel like they're deliberately trying to destroy the

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_01]: country.

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys have heard this, you will own nothing and you'll like it kind of thing.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_01]: That mantra going around this to me fits into that mold completely.

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_01]: And I could be wrong.

[00:15:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, my interpretation could be off, but you guys make your own decision.

[00:15:31] [SPEAKER_01]: So bottom line is they want to charge you 25% tax on unrealized capital gains.

[00:15:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of you might be like, well, Chuck, I don't even know what unrealized means.

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, when you realize it is when you sell it.

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_01]: When it's unrealized just means you have it.

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: Right?

[00:15:52] [SPEAKER_01]: So here's the example everybody's using and it's a good one.

[00:15:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So I'll go with it.

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_01]: If you buy a house and you pay $120,000, a lot of us probably are in a house right now

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_01]: that we paid less than what it's worth today.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:16:08] [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of that is actually because of interest and different things, but, and inflation.

[00:16:14] [SPEAKER_01]: But bottom line is you buy a house for $120,000.

[00:16:19] [SPEAKER_01]: That house in this year goes up to $220,000.

[00:16:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You have $100,000 in unrealized capital gains.

[00:16:30] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, but Chuck, I didn't sell my house.

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm still here.

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_01]: And I don't have that money.

[00:16:37] [SPEAKER_01]: That's just like what Zillow says.

[00:16:39] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean anything.

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_01]: And I might not sell my house for five years and I have no idea what my house will be worth

[00:16:46] [SPEAKER_01]: in five years.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_01]: But you gained all that value in this year.

[00:16:53] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to tax you at 25% on that.

[00:16:57] [SPEAKER_01]: So that means out of that 100,000 profit that you did not get, you have to give the government

[00:17:03] [SPEAKER_01]: $25,000.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_01]: Now let's go even further and say your house is worth $400,000.

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Now we're talking about $75,000 you have to pay on top of the 30, the 100,000 you already

[00:17:20] [SPEAKER_01]: paid that you financed out over 30 years.

[00:17:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You might have to sell your house just to pay your tax bill.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're saying, well, that's not good because then I would have to buy a new house and I

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_01]: don't have enough money to buy a new house.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_01]: And not if I have to lose all that equity.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_01]: Not if you have to get all that fucking money.

[00:17:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_01]: And you're starting back at zero.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_01]: And to me, that's something deliberately set up to equalize people.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_01]: You see where I'm going?

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin, is that your take on that?

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_01]: To me, that seems like you're making us all at a level playing field.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_01]: If you're skimming off all my wealth, how is that not equalizing the playing field?

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, really the important thing is you have to be happy with being poor.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's just get down to it.

[00:18:15] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:18:16] [SPEAKER_00]: As soon as the more the government controls, the less you control and the government's

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_00]: supposed to be like of the people.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But let's be honest, there's a different fucking class going on here.

[00:18:28] [SPEAKER_00]: There's more than one classes because we had mentioned this before the show, but minimum

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_00]: wage, federal minimum wage doesn't increase with the cost of living.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Not relative anyway.

[00:18:46] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not directly.

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, 725 has been minimum wage for 26 years.

[00:18:53] [SPEAKER_00]: Um, campaign finance contributions though.

[00:18:56] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a limit on that, but that increases as cost of living goes up.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Because that only makes sense, Kevin.

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_00]: So right now you can donate 57.

[00:19:06] [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's off to double check that I think it's $57,000 you can donate to each politician

[00:19:13] [SPEAKER_00]: that you want to.

[00:19:14] [SPEAKER_00]: That's that's your maximum limit.

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was maybe it's 5700 because I thought it was like 2000 was the max to a

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_01]: campaign.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, we'll have to double check that.

[00:19:24] [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, that increases every year based on inflation and cost of living.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Congressional pay for congressmen and senators that increases automatically every every year.

[00:19:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But they're not more skilled or anything, right?

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_00]: No, they're in the they're in that other class that I'm talking about.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They don't count.

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not the same as regular people because they're politicians.

[00:19:47] [SPEAKER_00]: I want to make sure that they're safe financially.

[00:19:51] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we need a good guy at the helm.

[00:19:54] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, somebody up there looking out for the people.

[00:19:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we need one of those benevolent dictators that they're always talking about.

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen one, but I hear about them.

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_01]: The benevolent one.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that one.

[00:20:05] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_01]: So minimum wage.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: All right.

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

[00:20:09] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't know that people are like, oh, capitalism.

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_01]: We have to do it because they won't pay.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?

[00:20:16] [SPEAKER_01]: It turns out if you have a company and nobody shows up to go to work for you,

[00:20:21] [SPEAKER_01]: then you have to pay them more because that's kind of how that works.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can just send it over to India and pay all those people and rice.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, whatever, whatever.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_01]: But then that comes with money manipulation and the value.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the reason it's better to go to India is because our dollar is so devalued that

[00:20:42] [SPEAKER_01]: it doesn't really-

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't relate to-

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but we'll see.

[00:20:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe ours isn't really worth anything either.

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, moving right along.

[00:20:56] [SPEAKER_01]: So taxes, bad.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Another thing we notice is selective enforcement of laws.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:21:03] [SPEAKER_00]: So this is the biggest, I think one of the biggest issues I have with just fucking life

[00:21:09] [SPEAKER_00]: in general is the selective enforcement of law.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_00]: So if you make everything illegal and then just don't enforce those laws, it doesn't

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_00]: make any difference in your life if you have laws that you're not enforcing.

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_00]: You can pass any law you want.

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_00]: If you're not enforcing, it doesn't change anything.

[00:21:29] [SPEAKER_00]: But you can enforce it if somebody's doing something that pisses you off, right?

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You can decide to enforce that law.

[00:21:39] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I'm charming.

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's because I'm handsome.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_00]: I've gotten pulled over probably five or six times where the cops just like,

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_00]: just get out of here, man.

[00:21:48] [SPEAKER_00]: Just go slow down.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Don't drive so fast.

[00:21:52] [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe that's a major problem I have in my life is always driving too fast.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:21:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's on me.

[00:21:59] [SPEAKER_00]: Most of the time they let me go because they say, he's got a luxurious beard.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, according to my laws, I never, my, my rules of living.

[00:22:10] [SPEAKER_00]: I never break two laws at once.

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't speed if my registration is overdue, you know, that's where you get fucked.

[00:22:17] [SPEAKER_00]: But by not giving me a ticket, they're letting me get away with all sorts of bullshit where

[00:22:25] [SPEAKER_00]: another person that doesn't have a luxurious beard like me, they might get a ticket, right?

[00:22:30] [SPEAKER_00]: But that implies that that multiplies as you go up, right?

[00:22:35] [SPEAKER_00]: So you can decide who you do and do not want to enforce the laws with.

[00:22:40] [SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't, I know there's a lot of talk about the death penalty for pedophiles in Texas, right?

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_00]: They talked about it.

[00:22:49] [SPEAKER_00]: I think they signed that in as a law, some sort of bullshit.

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_00]: They haven't killed one goddamn pedophile yet.

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, can we do that?

[00:22:58] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm not even, I'm not opposed to that law.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_00]: Like, can we do that?

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.

[00:23:02] [SPEAKER_00]: They ain't doing it.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_00]: They're not doing it.

[00:23:04] [SPEAKER_00]: They're just, it's fucking talk.

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_00]: They want to talk tough and then not actually follow through with it because that might have

[00:23:10] [SPEAKER_00]: some blowback because that pedophile was probably a fucking priest or an upstanding member of

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: society.

[00:23:16] [SPEAKER_00]: There's a fucking minister that got convicted of raping a 13-year-old girl.

[00:23:24] [SPEAKER_00]: And I can't remember the state he was in, but they gave him six months probation.

[00:23:29] [SPEAKER_00]: Is that your daughter?

[00:23:30] [SPEAKER_00]: Your 13-year-old daughter that got raped?

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_00]: Because I sure as fuck wouldn't be happy with six months probation, but he's an upstanding

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_00]: citizen.

[00:23:38] [SPEAKER_00]: So, he's got different rules that apply to him.

[00:23:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Different rules.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_01]: And I hate to say it.

[00:23:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That's the more you get.

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why it is.

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Basically, we'll say that a corrupt government and corrupt powers are what lead to those

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_01]: things and why people are upset.

[00:24:00] [SPEAKER_01]: I would just argue that socialism and communism end up to more and more government.

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, in theory, communism, we're all just getting along and there is no government.

[00:24:11] [SPEAKER_01]: Not really, but that's it because there's that huge structure in place.

[00:24:16] [SPEAKER_01]: But the more government, the more opportunity you have for corruption.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's my take on things.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_01]: I know people don't want to believe that.

[00:24:25] [SPEAKER_01]: That's my big thing with the school system.

[00:24:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Right now, our kids are being taught whatever the government chooses kind of thing.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_01]: They tried to make it even more so with Common Core or whatever, but that kind of didn't

[00:24:44] [SPEAKER_01]: really pan out.

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_01]: But they try and have a federal kind of agenda in the school system where they can indoctrinate

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_01]: your kids is what I would say.

[00:24:56] [SPEAKER_01]: They would make an argument that I'm wrong and crazy on that and I'm overreaching.

[00:25:01] [SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of that going on where they have their own agenda, I would say.

[00:25:11] [SPEAKER_01]: My thoughts, right?

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_01]: Minnesota right now, they just passed, it's going into effect in July that anybody who

[00:25:22] [SPEAKER_01]: is it wants a teaching license and wants to keep their teaching license has to affirm

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_01]: transgenderism and they have to be cool with recognizing children's gender and identity.

[00:25:35] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, to be honest, I would want my teacher to respect the parents' values.

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_01]: If I go into a school with my kid and I say, hey, this is Johnny and he's this and I want

[00:25:52] [SPEAKER_01]: you to treat him that way, I would expect the teacher to do it.

[00:25:55] [SPEAKER_01]: I think that needs to be recognized.

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_01]: But I think that goes both ways.

[00:25:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I always worry that the system is slanted one way or the other.

[00:26:04] [SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to push a certain agenda and things go that way.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_01]: Or the opposite of whatever it is.

[00:26:09] [SPEAKER_01]: The opposite of what might be relevant to me.

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_01]: The other one, Vermont.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: It's weird.

[00:26:15] [SPEAKER_01]: The health department in Vermont is telling schools that they don't want schools to use

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER_01]: the word son and daughter anymore.

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_01]: They want to use just kid or child.

[00:26:30] [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like you're trying to detach from the family.

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_01]: My personal take, that's my own opinion of what I infer.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't mean that's what their agenda is.

[00:26:39] [SPEAKER_01]: No idea what their agenda could be otherwise.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_01]: But you're saying, well, Chuck, what does this have to do with socialism?

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_01]: Here's where, let me break it down for you.

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_01]: What I'm saying is you're taking a large percentage of my paycheck to pay for the school

[00:26:56] [SPEAKER_01]: system, especially in New York and more elaborate states like that.

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_01]: They have a lot of money coming out of your paycheck to go for schools.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_01]: In New York, I paid school taxes that were ridiculous.

[00:27:13] [SPEAKER_01]: They were half my mortgage payment was to the schools.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_01]: That's significant.

[00:27:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's fine if I have control over where that money goes, but I don't.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't have any say of what goes on in a school.

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_01]: Even if I joined a school board or something, I still really don't have any say.

[00:27:34] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe if you're in Florida, you could burn some books or something.

[00:27:37] [SPEAKER_01]: But otherwise, not really.

[00:27:41] [SPEAKER_01]: The thing with that is I'm forced to work, but I have no control where my money goes.

[00:27:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, all my kids are growing and out of school, and they're not in there right now dealing with

[00:27:53] [SPEAKER_01]: this, but I'm still paying for all these other kids to be taught something contrary to what

[00:27:59] [SPEAKER_01]: I believe possibly.

[00:28:01] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sitting in the classroom.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on there.

[00:28:05] [SPEAKER_01]: But if you left that money in my pocket or you said, hey, we have to take care of a culture

[00:28:12] [SPEAKER_01]: here and we want everyone to be educated so we have good workers and everybody's not a

[00:28:17] [SPEAKER_01]: hillbilly and whatever, like those people in North Carolina.

[00:28:21] [SPEAKER_01]: You know how it is.

[00:28:23] [SPEAKER_01]: If we didn't want that to happen, we could maybe say, all right, you have to give this

[00:28:30] [SPEAKER_01]: percentage of your paycheck towards schools.

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_01]: However, you could then use that to pick and choose the private school or where you want

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_01]: to send your kids.

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_01]: We'll give you that money back to go do it.

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_01]: That would then be justified.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_01]: How many neighborhoods are the poor kids go to one type of school and the rich kids go

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_01]: to another type of school?

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_01]: There is some dramatic differences in schools throughout the United States.

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_01]: It's not equal.

[00:29:00] [SPEAKER_00]: Let's say hypothetically, you pay school taxes in your state.

[00:29:07] [SPEAKER_00]: It's always different.

[00:29:09] [SPEAKER_00]: Different states have different rules about it and different income.

[00:29:12] [SPEAKER_00]: We pay school taxes in New York State.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_00]: Mine's three or four thousand dollars a year.

[00:29:20] [SPEAKER_00]: The cost for one student per year going from kindergarten through 12th grade is about

[00:29:29] [SPEAKER_00]: $42,000 a year, which is one of the highest in the country.

[00:29:33] [SPEAKER_00]: If it's not by far, so if I am a poor person, right, I can send my kid to public school.

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_00]: If I'm a rich person, I can send my kids to private school.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_00]: But if I had that $42,000 that is already being invested in my kid, I should be able

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_00]: to spend that at any private school I want to as long as that private school reflects

[00:29:59] [SPEAKER_00]: the values that I appreciate as a parent.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_00]: That's not the case.

[00:30:03] [SPEAKER_00]: People are outraged that somebody would imply that you should be able to spend money on

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_00]: your own child because, well, I don't have any kids.

[00:30:12] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you went to fucking school and honestly, a bunch of stupid fucking kids isn't a benefit

[00:30:16] [SPEAKER_00]: to anybody.

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:30:17] [SPEAKER_00]: It's only going to make things work.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_00]: It's better to at least have some semblance of education for every child that can go whether

[00:30:24] [SPEAKER_00]: you're rich or poor.

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_00]: But you should be able to spend that money how you want to spend that money.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_00]: And that's called school vouchers and people lose their shit over it.

[00:30:33] [SPEAKER_00]: And I have no idea why.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_00]: Well, you should be fixing the schools that your kids are going to anyway.

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: No, they've already been.

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_00]: They've been trying to do that for years.

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_00]: They ain't fixing shit.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, kids are kids are getting dumber and dumber and they're getting more and more

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_00]: confident about being stupid.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_00]: That's how the fucking trends are going in this country.

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_00]: Are your kids confident?

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:30:54] [SPEAKER_00]: Are they stupid?

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

[00:30:55] [SPEAKER_01]: That's not a great combination, but no, whatever you have to do the teaching on the on your own.

[00:31:02] [SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is, when you're working nonstop in order to take care of your family because

[00:31:08] [SPEAKER_01]: you're taking care of your family as well as 12 other families, then you don't have

[00:31:15] [SPEAKER_01]: the time to be at home raising your kids and teaching them the values that you care about.

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, everyone says, oh, well, you should be interacting with your kids at home.

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:31:24] [SPEAKER_01]: Good luck if you're working nonstop to put clothes on them and you know,

[00:31:28] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you and your wife work full time because you kind of have to.

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of have to now.

[00:31:34] [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe you're lucky and your wife is really good at running a business where she does day

[00:31:40] [SPEAKER_00]: care so she can stay at home and raise her kids along with everybody else's.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: With her values.

[00:31:44] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:31:45] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_00]: Good luck getting fucking paid for that, you know?

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_01]: And that sounds like a great life that you've cut out for yourself where everything is like

[00:31:53] [SPEAKER_01]: exhausting.

[00:31:54] [SPEAKER_01]: How do I fit?

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_01]: You know, let's give it where you can have a choice where you work as much as you want to work.

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_01]: And obviously we have to work more to get more stuff, but there needs to be some kind of,

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's a certain point where more stuff isn't really beneficial to you or anybody

[00:32:13] [SPEAKER_00]: else, you know?

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I do have to point out that when we talk about taxes, choice, your homes being taken

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_01]: away from you, that kind of stuff.

[00:32:25] [SPEAKER_01]: Did I mention that buying gold and silver sounds like a really good idea?

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[00:32:31] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying when I have bad stacks of silver, not everybody needs to know about it.

[00:32:39] [SPEAKER_00]: Capital gains, bro.

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_00]: It's going up in value.

[00:32:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_01]: You better put that on the report.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying, I don't know.

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_01]: It's a crazy world we're living in right now.

[00:32:52] [SPEAKER_01]: And that's really what upsets me.

[00:32:55] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, we could talk about the same thing with the healthcare system, right?

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Remember it was all going to be, we had the Affordable Care Act.

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_01]: Kevin, is your healthcare affordable?

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_00]: No.

[00:33:06] [SPEAKER_00]: And healthcare is never going to be affordable in the United States.

[00:33:11] [SPEAKER_00]: That's just the way it is.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_00]: There's way too many companies that are middlemen that are collecting your fucking money, you know?

[00:33:18] [SPEAKER_00]: Insurance companies that are happy to take their fucking bill, their $900 a month or whatever it is,

[00:33:24] [SPEAKER_00]: whatever astronomical price they're charging you.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_00]: But then as soon as you need something, that's not covered.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_00]: So you got to spend $9,000 before you get a penny from us.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_01]: We even talked about it, right?

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_01]: A hundred percent.

[00:33:37] [SPEAKER_01]: And it just, it's so dysfunctional, right?

[00:33:42] [SPEAKER_01]: And I feel like we had a choice in my mind, right?

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_01]: When the Affordable Care Act, when they were talking about it,

[00:33:51] [SPEAKER_01]: we could have opened it up kind of as a market.

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Because right now, before the Affordable Care Act, insurance companies would be approved

[00:34:00] [SPEAKER_01]: to work in like three states and then other ones would work in another couple of states.

[00:34:05] [SPEAKER_01]: And they would all be spread out, but it wasn't universal, right?

[00:34:09] [SPEAKER_01]: And they were saying, hey, if we open it up, there'll be a market, you know,

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_01]: where you're competitive, like capitalism, we could call it.

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_01]: And they would compete against each other.

[00:34:18] [SPEAKER_01]: And instead they were like, no, no, that's a horrible idea.

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_01]: That'll just increase the greed.

[00:34:24] [SPEAKER_01]: So they were like, if you do it our way and we do this Affordable Care Act,

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_01]: everything will be affordable.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Everything will be covered.

[00:34:31] [SPEAKER_01]: You won't have to worry about nothing.

[00:34:33] [SPEAKER_01]: Instead, people who had no insurance were getting fined

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_01]: because they couldn't afford insurance.

[00:34:39] [SPEAKER_01]: So that was really helpful for them, right, Kevin?

[00:34:42] [SPEAKER_01]: They got to, you know-

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_00]: Like the bank giving you the overdraft fees because you're fucking poor,

[00:34:46] [SPEAKER_00]: so now you got to pay extra.

[00:34:48] [SPEAKER_00]: That only helps.

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_00]: It's expensive being poor, man.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot more expensive being poor than it is being rich.

[00:34:58] [SPEAKER_01]: Making minimum wage and having that job where you're washing dishes in a restaurant

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_01]: or you're hustling as a waitress or you're, you know, all these things.

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You're working like twice as hard as the guy who's making 60 bucks an hour.

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe three times as hard.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. I could tell you from personal experience,

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_00]: the more I've gotten paid throughout my life,

[00:35:21] [SPEAKER_00]: the less actual work was expected out of me.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_00]: 100%.

[00:35:26] [SPEAKER_00]: When I've got minimum wage, I was moving nonstop.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_00]: You get a 15 minute break, but that's it.

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_00]: We're paying that $15 or $13.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no paid time off on those jobs, you know?

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_01]: There's no vacation.

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER_01]: That's definitely how life works, you know?

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_01]: Man, it is not easy.

[00:35:45] [SPEAKER_01]: You have to kind of find a way to cut it out for yourself.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I would also say that I feel like powers that be up there

[00:35:54] [SPEAKER_01]: are working to kind of destroy things.

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like immigration has been used to, I would say,

[00:36:02] [SPEAKER_01]: personal opinion, overwhelm the system.

[00:36:07] [SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, we're like, hey, we want to make everybody legal.

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_01]: We want to allow all kinds of benefits open to people who came and overwhelmed the system.

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_01]: Then all of a sudden, the system isn't working.

[00:36:22] [SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's what happened with Obamacare,

[00:36:24] [SPEAKER_01]: with the whole healthcare system.

[00:36:27] [SPEAKER_01]: It was, hey, we made all these changes.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Wow, it's really not working.

[00:36:33] [SPEAKER_01]: All of a sudden, people are like, let's just have government healthcare.

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Just be in charge completely because I can't do it.

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We're ready to give all our rights of healthcare to the government

[00:36:44] [SPEAKER_01]: because we're like, the system we have now is destroyed, but we just destroyed it.

[00:36:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, it turns out the rest of the system is being overwhelmed

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_01]: and money's being given out left and right.

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_01]: They're like, now we need all these ridiculous taxes.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_00]: One of the biggest damages in the past eight years, and this is going to be controversial.

[00:37:07] [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think a lot of people will agree with this, but Donald Trump decreased taxes.

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_00]: Right?

[00:37:14] [SPEAKER_00]: He significantly cut taxes.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_00]: He also increased spending and added, that's called deficit spending.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not inflation.

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_00]: It's not the same thing.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_00]: It just causes a deficit and kicks it down the road.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_00]: So increasing it by $6 trillion.

[00:37:28] [SPEAKER_00]: The great thing about this, you don't have to pay back.

[00:37:32] [SPEAKER_00]: You have to pay interest in it.

[00:37:34] [SPEAKER_00]: This is our grandkids' problem and fuck them.

[00:37:36] [SPEAKER_00]: They didn't get any of the benefit from it, but they're going to have to pay the shit back.

[00:37:40] [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to do long-term damage to your country,

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_00]: increase the spending and cut taxes.

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_00]: That's the best way to do it.

[00:37:47] [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to fucking destroy America, that's a great long-term plan for it.

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Kevin, we are well on our way.

[00:37:56] [SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you, we are well on our way.

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_00]: I fully support cutting taxes, but I also support cutting spending and that never happens.

[00:38:06] [SPEAKER_00]: It only increases year after year increases.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_00]: How are we giving it away to everybody?

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_01]: We don't have it.

[00:38:14] [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make any sense.

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_00]: No, it's our grandkids' problem, Chuck.

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_00]: You don't understand.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_00]: We just make somebody else pay for it 20 years from now.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_01]: Right.

[00:38:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Not to put the damper on everybody, but that's the direction we're heading.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_01]: It really, you know who you vote for, but I always look at it as

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_01]: think of how fast you want the train to go.

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_01]: Both trains are taking us down a bad road, but one is going a little slower.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_01]: I'll let you guys decide which one.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_01]: I don't really tell people who to vote for.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_01]: I know Kevin has some opinions.

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_01]: I have some opinions, but it's not looking good as far as government getting smaller

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_01]: and spending going down.

[00:38:58] [SPEAKER_01]: The government needs to be looking out for you and I'm not seeing it right now.

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that's what I got.

[00:39:06] [SPEAKER_01]: I really appreciate it.

[00:39:08] [SPEAKER_01]: You guys want to meet me in person?

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be at Prepper Camp coming up by end of September, 26, 27, 28, I think.

[00:39:18] [SPEAKER_01]: You check us out there.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's 27, 28, 29, somewhere in there.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, preppercamp.com.

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_01]: You can check out our website at preppingbadass.com.

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_01]: Email us questions, concerns, show ideas, things you wanted to hear about,

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_01]: things you want us to talk about, whatever.

[00:39:37] [SPEAKER_01]: Email us at preppingbadass at gmail.com.

[00:39:41] [SPEAKER_01]: We do actually need the emails and respond to them.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_01]: We're pretty good about it.

[00:39:45] [SPEAKER_01]: We might take a day or two, but we're pretty good.

[00:39:49] [SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, show ideas, whatever.

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_01]: With that, I would say stay safe and we will talk to you guys next week.

[00:40:08] Bye.