Prepper Tips From The Morman's

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[00:00:59] Stand up for freedom with the Friends of NRA. Hello, Rye. Welcome back to the Survival and Basic Badass Podcast, Kevin and Chuck. Today, well, we're going to talk about prepping. Who knew, right?

[00:01:24] Well, we're going to talk about prepping and kind of the Mormon's take on it. Because I got to say, there's a lot of insight that can be gleamed from what they do.

[00:01:35] One of the things I've always wondered about is how the majority of churches in America, the idea, and I don't mean just Mormon, I mean churches overall, is the majority of the churches are very big on outreach and helping people and reaching out to the community.

[00:01:56] I don't know if it's a majority, but a large number. But one of the best ways to be able to help others is by being prepared and able to take care of yourself so you're not the burden. And then hopefully you have extra that you can share with your community and your people. And I'm always surprised that that's not discussed more and built up as a self-reliance thing.

[00:02:21] Now, the LDS church, the Latter-day Saints or the Mormons, we're not talking about their religious philosophy or whatever. That's not really the point of the episode, although Kevin may have some insight. I see his eyes going. So I feel like there's something there.

[00:02:39] But the big thing is they have been an established church for a very long time, at least in here in America, obviously, since they had that whole finding the books and all this. But they have a long history and they have a long history of preparedness. They actually used to encourage their members to have a seven year supply of food.

[00:03:07] That's a big that's a big number there. And then they cut it down to two and then they cut it down to one. But still a year per family member. That's that's a big deal. Now, they talk about initially what a year of food storage is and it's not crazy. They're basics right now. Don't get upset when you hear what this is.

[00:03:34] But they basically say 400 pounds of grain, 60 pounds of legumes, which, you know, like beans and they say peas and like that. But powdered milk, 16 pounds, cooking oil, 10 quarts, sugar or honey, 60 pounds, salt, eight pounds and water, 14 gallons, which they say is a two week supply.

[00:04:03] And and they have a like a little display that they probably have in one of the churches. So what it should look like, you know, your minimum. Now, I saw people talking about this online and there was actually a video on, you know, Mormon preparedness and their food storage. And I was just like, well, there's no protein. You're not whatever. Now, the honest answer is, I think if you had this, you could probably live for a year.

[00:04:33] I think your nutrition and whatever is going to go down. But honestly, a lot of the crap that people eat. Yeah, I don't think it's the end of the world either. Right. Yeah. It's probably healthier than most people are currently eating. But that's not the end. This is supposed to be like the minimum. Right. This is the starting point. And I'm not saying that they say, oh, you have to have more. They say if you have this, you're good. Right.

[00:05:02] You meet the standard. But it's not. And honestly, a lot of the things I read in the Mormon paperwork was we encourage it. We'd like you to do it. Do what's feasible. You build it up over time. It talks about frugality. They talk about not going into debt. They talk about not being crazy. Go ahead.

[00:05:25] That was a big deal of the stuff that I've read through is like, be prepared, but be out of debt first. Don't buy all this stuff on a credit card. Right. Get your debt down and then start stocking up. And I think that's a wise way to be. So they actually put out a preparedness manual.

[00:05:51] And as far as I can tell everywhere, actually, I went on their website and what they sent me. The most current one is actually from 2012. So it's been around a little bit. The website, the book is available on Amazon. It was like $34.95 or something along that line. It was, I felt very expensive. Um, they had another option, which I actually bought was $5.95.

[00:06:19] And I believe this is from 2011. And it's, it is missing some of the information, but it was five bucks versus 35. And I'm pretty cheap. And I also, at that moment when I made my impulsive buy, I didn't know what I was getting into as far as the book, if it was going to be a complete waste of my time or, you know, whatever. Um, they do, however, I'm going to put a link in the, in the notes.

[00:06:47] Uh, we finished the live and then I update all the links. I haven't, I'm not smart enough to get the links in for the live episode. Um, but I'm going to put all the links in there where you can get a free PDF of it. If you search, uh, Mormon, uh, preparedness download manual, uh, it's A V O W is what it says in the, the description.

[00:07:15] Um, they'll send you a link to the PDF and whatever. And, and I did get, that was like three days ago. I think I've gotten one more email of, Hey, want to be a Mormon kind of thing. So, you know, you're kind of stuck after that, but luckily I used Kevin's email. So we're good. Secret of the pros right there. Um, the manual I actually found to be exceptional and we're going to kind of go through it and talk about it.

[00:07:42] Um, let's, uh, let's talk about kind of their philosophy first. Kevin, you did a lot of insight more into that, right? That was, you listened to some sermons. Boy, I did. I did. I went through a couple hours worth of, uh, LDS sermons and, uh, boring, bud. Uh, uh, smart there, you know, there are a lot of smart guys in there with a lot of, um, you know, valid opinions and valid, valid ideas.

[00:08:11] As far as this stuff goes, as far as being prepared, being prepared for, um, yourself, your family and your community, you know, it's, it's also, uh, encouraging your friends and neighbors to, you know, do the same thing and helping them out to get prepared. Uh, which, you know, that's a good idea. You don't want your neighbor banging on your door, looking for your food. Uh, you want, you want everybody around you to be prepared as well.

[00:08:41] A hundred percent. Um, that's the big thing. I mean, you know, if we can prepare as a community or, you know, as church, whatever, whatever your group, even as a neighborhood, then, you know, one, you can plan in some redundancy and, you know, and, and where you need extra protection. And also you can make your budget go further by certain people having certain items and, you know, like that.

[00:09:08] But that's, you know, for you guys to figure out. But, uh, yeah, no, I was, I was really excited. So yeah, we can jump right into it. Uh, the manual, what I found was pretty awesome is the preparedness manual is just a bunch of stuff they pulled offline. It's stuff that they had church members contribute. It's stuff that, so it's this huge compilation. It's not one of these.

[00:09:35] I always find like, I feel like even the government, they, when they set up like ready.gov or whatever, it almost feels like they created all their information in a void or something. Like they didn't even look or consider what anybody else in the world has ever done. They're like, we're the government. We're going to figure it out and we're going to have the best way. And I kind of always expect that from a church. And I did not find that at all.

[00:10:04] They're like survival mom blog and suburban prepper and all these different things they took from. And they have all these articles off their websites kind of thing compiled into this book. And it covered a lot of ground and was pretty awesome. So I figure I can, uh, take you guys through some of this stuff. And it was kind of crazy. I, uh, I was pretty happy with it.

[00:10:31] There was like, they have basically principles of preparedness. It started out with, uh, you know, frugality, uh, seek to be independent, become industrious. And they actually talk about, you know, kind of learning the skills. Uh, Kevin, you said in a lot of the sermons you heard, they were talking about, you know, sewing and, and, you know, some of the basic skills that people don't always have anymore. Right. Yeah. I thought it was, uh, kind of funny listening.

[00:10:59] And one of the, one of the sermons, one of the guy was one of the, I mean, he must've been 180 years old, he was ancient looking, but he was upset because, uh, modern women were wanted to have office jobs. Right. And they weren't doing handicrafts anymore. Um, you know, they weren't mending clothing and, and that sort of stuff. And I think it's, you know, it's really, you don't have to be a woman to be, uh, um, handy frugal and to be able to, you know, I mean, I was, I was in the Navy.

[00:11:28] I spent a lot of time fixing patches and fixing my uniforms and, you know, you know, I know how to sew. I can, I can fix my own clothing. I can, I can make my own clothing. I think, uh, most people should be able to do it. It's, it's a basic skill. You don't have to spend all, all your day, um, you know, sewing and stitching, but, um, you know, knowing how to do it is, is basic, uh, basic skill that everybody should have. Right. Right.

[00:11:55] And that was like, one of the things though, I mean, their preparedness manual, like I was saying, if it's definitely not like a homesteader manual, right? It's not like, Hey, here's how you go out. And, and one of the things I love about it is in the first article is, is this is not a, uh, emergency memory manual. It's a preparedness manual. And they say, you shouldn't go read this book after something bad happens.

[00:12:24] You need to read this book before. Cause it's preparedness and you need to, you know, establish these things in your house and learn these skills and deal with things. And then you're ready for when things happen. And one of the things that talked about was, uh, had a big article on normalcy bias. How many people overlook that? You know, that's one of the big things we talk about on this podcast. Cause people are like, Oh, well, it's not really that bad. These bad things aren't coming.

[00:12:53] I don't need to. And then they find themselves put in a corner where they don't have the supplies and the things they need. Um, it has huge checklists. Um, I, I went through, I think it was like eight pages of just food storage and these are like line items. So it's long, uh, I think I can, can take you through it. It, uh, it's kind of crazy.

[00:13:20] They have, um, one second, see, right. They talk about general preparedness survey where they have you kind of go through what you have on hand, things like that. That's awesome. They talk about levels of preparedness, like how long you can go without, you know, something bad. Um, they talk about buying the stuff and that's one of the things they have the LDS store.

[00:13:47] You can actually order a lot of the canned stuff online and they are open to the public. There's a lot of stuff. I'll put a link to that. They also have LDS stores like around. Um, I don't know if the stores are, you know, open to everybody. Um, home storage centers open to the public. It does say they are. So I believe they are because they want to be able to talk to you and, you know, push

[00:14:15] this stuff on you, but they have a basic food storage list, right? It talks about the grains. It breaks it down fats, but they say what they mean. You know, they're like, Hey, look, get couscous, get corn, corn meal, get barley, get, you know, rice, get. And honestly, if we had this much variety, it wouldn't be all that bad. They talk about 20 pounds of canned meat, which is not, you know, in that big master,

[00:14:41] you know, list thing we had, they have just tons of cool stuff. And I got to say, even though the $5 version of the book that I bought is not as complete, it does have this master food checklist. And if you were actually going to go through the list and check these things off, you'd be able to really, you know, accomplish a lot, which is pretty awesome.

[00:15:07] Um, you'd be able to market off as you go and whatever. I was like, I usually like to just have my company where I work, print out all my documents. So if I find a good PDF, why spend the $35 when I can print 500 pages on their printer? Cause it is double sided. So, you know, yeah. Right. It's only like two 50, you know, maybe I printed out the Kubota tractor manual, you know, maybe,

[00:15:34] you know, the different things, you know, a lot of the new cars, they come with online training or a car manuals. Now they don't do the print that out, just whatever. I'm just saying, sorry, I got a little off task. You know how it is. I get excited about benefits, right? Yeah. Yeah. So from the manual, I'm just going to read it real quick is, uh, it says, uh, we have

[00:16:00] been counseled to be prepared for personal and large scale disasters. This preparedness includes sustaining life with food storage and water supply and extends to planning for reunification after a disaster. communication with family members, mental and emotional preparedness, and many other considerations. I think that covers a lot of stuff that, uh, preppers don't really talk about.

[00:16:25] Um, the mental and emotional preparedness, you know, being ready mentally and emotionally for disasters, being, uh, prepared. You know, uh, I see a lot of people I've been in a lot of situations where there's been like a medical emergency or something like that. And, you know, people are like panic, you know, they freeze up. Uh, what should I do? What should I do? You know, that sort of stuff. Um, you know, it's not helpful.

[00:16:53] It's not helpful for the person that's, that's injured and it's not helpful for the people that are trying to have, you know, help resolve the situation. Um, you know, if you don't know what to do, get the fuck out of the way. Right. But you should be one of the people that knows what to do. You should be one of the people that's prepared for an emergency situation when it happens.

[00:17:16] And obviously, you know, a long-term disaster is not the same as, uh, you know, a car accident or, you know, somebody having a, a seizure or a heart attack, but it's the same sort of mentality. You know, another thing that they mentioned that I just mentioned there in, uh, um, their heading is, is communication with, uh, with family, family members and community members.

[00:17:43] You know, we think a lot of these, a lot about a lot of these things as being isolated, you know, you and your family and your house. Um, but what about your neighbors, your friends, those sorts of people? Um, you want to be able to establish contact with, you know, people in your neighborhood, whether it's going next door and knocking on the door and making sure they're okay. Or, you know, whether it's, um, you know, a friend up the street that, you know, maybe

[00:18:10] they have a sick wife or a sick kid that might need help powers out for two days, you know, they might need, you know, might need some, some help. And that's the sort of thing that, um, uh, a lot of people leave out of their, their, uh, preps, you know, is being prepared to help other people. Yeah. And that's, that's, I mean, you'd think where churches would want to be, right?

[00:18:34] I mean, I think one of the goals is to be like, you know, like Christ and helping people and was the, you know, I don't know, maybe, maybe I made that part up. I don't know. But anyway, as we were, uh, they, they have articles about talking about how to, you know, when you cook, you're giving off smells. They were like, Oh, you know, maybe you can use the microwave instead of the grill.

[00:18:59] So Kevin, I think was mentioning to me earlier, you don't want to cook fish in the microwave. Yeah. Who, who hasn't had a, uh, workmate that used the, uh, kitchen break room or the, the, the break room, the microwave fish and stinks the whole damn place up. And then you heat up your coffee later. Yeah. And it tastes like fish. Nobody wants that. Yeah. Don't, don't do it. All right. I'll keep that in mind. They talk about a baby formula, stuff like that. You know, it's funny.

[00:19:28] It brought to mind, uh, there's a, uh, a prepper novel I was just reading and they had no baby formula and we're kind of stuck. And the kid was like, you know, weaning off, uh, you know, nursing and that kind of thing. And, uh, they ended up saying that you could use, if you boil, you cook rice using that leftover water actually has a lot of the nutrients. And that's actually a great substitute for baby formula. And I kind of checked into that.

[00:19:58] Obviously you're not getting all the nutritional value, but you're getting more fat stuff in there than, yeah, that's going to help the baby. Right. So, you know, keeping babies alive. That's a big thing, right? For the apocalypse. Yeah. I remember, uh, reading about, uh, during, um, the medieval era, the Catholic church was very, uh, um, adamant about, you know, nursing and wet nursing.

[00:20:26] But what about, what about, um, uh, orphans? And so you want to use the milk that's going to promote the, um, the virtues that you want a child to have an orphan. Right. So smart. I want to use cow's milk because cows aren't really, that's not really virtuous. Yeah. No, no donkey milk. I didn't even know that was a thing, but if you can get donkey milk, that has to go to,

[00:20:54] that's going to, yeah, that's going to give the children the virtue that they need. Um, you know, because you want kids to be like donkeys, I guess. I don't know. I don't know that. I've often said that my kids in ass. So, you know, maybe that's. Yeah. Could be something that's something to do with that. Kevin, that's horrible. Horrible. No, I didn't read anything about storing whiskey in the, uh, in the preparedness manual. They didn't have anything about alcohol being stored in there.

[00:21:23] Now I know they have. I know they don't drink coffee either. They don't. Well, they don't drink hot drinks. So coffee and tea are excluded. Right. I think that they implied that hot drinks were caffeinated. Um, but you can find LDS members all over the place drinking monster energy drinks and things like that. Not coffee though. Is that like the Jewish people with Christmas trees though? Yeah, I thought so.

[00:21:54] You hear the pin drop. Yeah. It's the, uh, you know, listen, I'm not, I'm not going to be here, uh, um, splitting airs on somebody else's religion. I'm not a Mormon myself. I'm not going to try and try and, uh, tell people what they shouldn't, shouldn't be doing in their religion. Oh man. Now it's an ugly world, but yeah, the manual was just awesome.

[00:22:18] I was, I was super excited about, I had to say it's 500 pages, but being able to like read through, they talk about, you know, generators. It talks about toilets, garbage disposal. And the thing is, like I said, it isn't some clown who's like, yeah, I'm just going to put together all this stuff. Like out of his mind, he went and found, Hey, this guy wrote a really thorough article on this, on, you know, dealing with sanitation.

[00:22:47] And he went and, you know, put that article in here. Uh, emergency lighting. They talk about, you know, headlamps and your everyday carry lanterns, small, large, different and how to, what about what's a store as far as fuel for your lantern. Um, there's like eight pages on lanterns in here. So it's like, um, emergency heating and cooking wood, propane, white gas, like Coleman fuel,

[00:23:17] kerosene, they charcoal, sterno. They talk about not using the charcoal in the house, something about carbon monoxide. I don't know. They talk about the clothing you want to store. Yeah. I think a couple of people died in that, uh, storm Texas had a few, uh, a few years ago because they brought their grills inside. So, you know, to keep the house warm, to keep from freezing to death. And then, you know, that's no good. That's a lack of oxygen tends to get you. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:45] The, uh, they have articles on defense, um, and how that might become an issue. They talk about money and having cash on hand. I mean, that's pretty awesome. Bugging out, staying in the city. I mean, for one manual altogether and having, but like I said, it's not like a how to, it's not like a SAS manual. It's not a how to farm.

[00:24:10] Um, it does actually have a big section on, uh, seed storage and what seeds you might want to store. Right. Uh, they go through a big list on that. I mean, to me, that's pretty awesome. I mean, it, it really does cover, um, let's see, uh, temporal preparation. That was the ones we were just kind of going through space cramp. And when you hoard everything and end up with too much clutter.

[00:24:40] So that's, you know, articles on everything, uh, emergency generators. I think I mentioned that, um, protecting yourself from terrorism, homeland securities, advisory system, uh, avian flu quarantine, nuclear disasters, what to do after nuclear disasters. Like that's pretty awesome for, you know, a church preparedness manual.

[00:25:06] I got to say for a church to care about its members that much to put something out like that and actually encourage it and push it from the pulpit as something, Hey, this is important. And it actually is a big article, big chapters on spiritual preparedness too. It says the author is JC. I was trying to figure out who it was, but I couldn't find the name. Whoever that is.

[00:25:32] But, uh, the, uh, the, they had, you know, all that stuff that's looking out for your people. I mean, these are the things that are going to matter. You know, one of the best ways to help people is to have them help themselves, right. To teach them the preparedness skills to take care of themselves. Now, I agree. They're not, you know, outdoor, although I think they do have a big like camping program and things they do, but you know, kind of like the scouting stuff. Right.

[00:26:00] Um, but having your members prepared and store the stuff they need and take care of things, that's pretty awesome. It's awesome. It's awesome to take care of your people and, uh, you know, look out for them. I don't know. Yeah. I know some of the, some of the headlines in the, um, some of the bullet points in the, uh, in the manual were, uh, evaluate disasters and disruptions.

[00:26:24] And I think that's, uh, you know, a valid point is to watch the news, you know, see what other people are doing to, to survive disasters, um, plan for disruption. So we plan, you know, be ready for that sort of stuff, develop a communication plan, which I think is underrated. I know we talk about ham radios and we talk about, um, you know, battery power radios and crank power radios and things like that. But I think that's really an important, uh, important thing to, to keep up with.

[00:26:53] Um, create a unit reunification plan. So, you know, being able to get in contact with your, with your family members, um, plan for special needs. There's a lot of people that have medical situations that aren't, aren't necessarily common, you know, but require, uh, require additional provisions, you know, um, and create a list of action items for things that, that, uh, require further preparation.

[00:27:20] So, uh, you have all your stockpile, you know, you've got all your preparedness ready. You're, you're all set, you know, but what are, what are your going to be your immediate action steps after the disaster strikes? You know, when you talk about filling up your bathtub and you know, those types of, uh, those types of things, but you need to be ready for when that stuff happens to get things, to get things set, you know?

[00:27:51] Yeah. No, exactly. One of the guys, uh, I was watching was talking about, um, I don't know if it was 1 billion or 2 billion dollars. The LDS church has, uh, set, you know, just saved just, uh, you know, emergency, whatever it is. Right. Not going the way of our country. They made, they made a lot of that money by actually selling these preparedness, uh,

[00:28:17] you know, the foods and different things, you know, they actually produce a lot of this stuff. Um, and it, you know, he had a valid point. He said, why would we not be prepared for, why would we not have money like this? You know, Joseph said, uh, or, you know, was it Joseph? I think it was Joseph that, uh, uh, Right. That found the thing. It was, uh, during the, during the, um, Egyptian period, you know, that he had a dream that a drought was coming or a famine was coming. Okay.

[00:28:47] And, um, and, uh, you know, they had seven years to stockpile and then when the emergency came, they were prepared for it. You know, people were coming to Egypt to get food. As the go-to. Right. Mm-hmm. Right. So I think that's, uh, you know, the Bible does teach about that sort of stuff about, you know, taking the time of wealth, you know, and plenty and being prepared.

[00:29:14] In the spiritual section, it does go through a ton of scriptures to, you know, why we prepare, why it's important and whatever. And it does lay out a big outline of why you should be a prepper, you know, like the biblical why be a prepper section, which is pretty awesome. I mean, you know, it's, you, you back up what you say with your faith. That's pretty cool. You know, I can't knock that. Yeah. And I think a lot of people are, uh, a lot of, um, Mormons are really, you know, they're

[00:29:43] preparing for the end of the world. Jesus is coming back, but there's going to be seven years of, of tribulation. Not so plenty. Yeah. So, uh, according to their, you know, their reading of, of the scripture, um, being prepared is a, is a major point. Oh, absolutely. And that's, that's, you know, important. I think that's, you know, like I said, whether you're religious or not, it doesn't matter.

[00:30:11] The point is you need it. Well, I guess it does matter if you believe where you're going to spend eternity, that part might matter. Sure. Um, but, uh, what it, you need to be prepared, you know, so often through the Bible, you see about, you know, people are like, Oh, I just go on blind faith. Well, no, you take steps to, you know, to prepare and be ready for things.

[00:30:36] You know, you should be, the Bible talks about being a good steward of what God's given you. Well, being a good steward is taking care of things is having things in order and being prepared. You know, if you're like, well, I'm going to ignore fixing that hole in my roof because God will take care of me. Yeah. No. And I hear people say things like that, like God will provide what he's providing right now. Right. You know what I mean? Right. He's providing you, you had the opportunity to get ready.

[00:31:06] When he sent me over to talk to you about the hole in your roof and how, you know, Hey, look, we should do something here. That was it. That was, he was letting you know, I'm just saying, just putting that out there, you know? And, but like I said, it was really awesome. Their preparedness manual, as far as like an initial layout, get you thinking outside the box. You know, whenever people talk to us about, you know, where do I start as a prepper?

[00:31:33] I would say that manual is an excellent start. Um, reading through it, understanding the concepts and, you know, of preparedness and then actually having a plan to put in action. It actually has a, like how to lay it out, um, and go through it. Like by this each week to slowly get there, they talk about canning stuff. They talk about what things you should can and how to do it.

[00:32:00] Um, not as detailed of a canning instruction as some, but it definitely takes you through how to do it, but it definitely says recipes and how often and what you should do in order to get to that proper preparedness level. And I got to say, that's what so many people, you know, they feel overwhelmed by prepping. They're like, Oh, it's too much. I can't take all that on. And this way it's laid out in front of you.

[00:32:29] You can just, Hey, I follow these steps and good things happen. That's not a bad way to be Kevin. I think that's smart. Okay. I do want to point out that we finally hit like 10,000 subscribers on YouTube. That's kind of a big thing. I don't have any like little pop things with confetti, but if I did, that's, that's, I could apply that now that would be appropriate.

[00:32:55] Um, I don't know if that's a big thing, but make sure you guys like, and subscribe that always helps out. Uh, as you know, the, uh, Facebook group, which somehow that's in shambles, we do have a new link for a new Facebook group that I'll put in the show notes and you guys can make sure you check that out. Um, otherwise my wife brought that up the other day. She was, she was scrolling through Facebook and she goes, what happened? And your, your Facebook page got hacked. I said, yeah, what's going on there?

[00:33:24] She's like, people are like cooking, cooking, fishing stuff. Like all the time. It's not even for like, yeah, I don't like weird, you know, I don't know. Did I try to sell it? I jacked him for ads. They were like, not enough people are seeing my fish. I don't know what's going on there. I don't know who knows. And, uh, so yeah, but with that, I'd say, uh, questions, concerns, emails at prepping badass at gmail.com.

[00:33:53] Otherwise I would say stay safe and we will talk to you guys next week.