The Deadly Mistakes Happening Right Now Where You Work

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[00:00:41] All right, so let's talk about fires. Kevin, there's been a lot of industrial factory fires, that kind of stuff. Yeah, there's been a few lately. Yeah, and they end bad, right? So when you're in the big warehouse or the big factory and things like that, you know, and we always used to hear how bad it was. You know, you'd talk about when we had no OSHA and no, you know, all these things.

[00:01:11] And you'd hear about the, whatever, the yarn factory or the linen factory. Yeah. And they'd have the massive fires and everybody'd die. And now only a few people die. So it's way better. In the 1880s, yeah. Now people were burning to death all the time, man. 1880s, 1890s. And they'd be like, don't leave your workstation. And you're like, the whole building's on fire. What do I do?

[00:01:38] And that's always the trick. So what have you been seeing, Kevin? What's got you so concerned? Well, this all started earlier this month. I mean, it's, what's today, the 19th, 18th? We're April 7th. So the past 11 days, there's been quite a few warehouse fires. The first one that kind of kicked things off was the one in California, Ontario, California.

[00:02:05] It's the Kimberly-Clark warehouse. That was on the 7th of April. So a guy recorded himself being pissed off and it was a warehouse of Scott toilet paper. So, you know, stock up now because prices might go up. They've burned a lot of it.

[00:02:28] But, yeah, the guy recorded himself being pissed off about how much he got paid and then, you know, lighting some toilet paper on. And people said, why didn't the sprinklers go on? But this guy had planned it out. So he started a small fire. The sprinklers kicked on. The fire department came. They turned the sprinklers off and left. And then he started the, you know, the big fire.

[00:02:54] That really is some big planning. I know whenever we do like hot work or whatever, you go, we go to security and are like, hey, you need to shut the sprinklers off because we're going to be doing hot work. And it's kind of one of those ironic of, now mind you, they supposedly shut the sprinklers off in that area. Right. But again, you're still allowing that one area to burn, you know, so it's one of those things.

[00:03:22] So, yeah, ultimately it costs about $600 million worth of damage. Wow. It was a big fire. Like it, it really took it out. You know, and I hear people talking about, well, if they paid them all a living wage, they wouldn't have spent $600 million. Well, yeah, sure. But, you know, who expects to have their warehouse burnt down by a disgruntled employee? It doesn't happen all the time. Yeah. I mean, also if you don't let your, if your employees don't burn down your building, you wouldn't have to pay $600 million.

[00:03:52] So, I mean, right. Right. And maybe, maybe they can't afford to pay a will, a living wage because people keep burning down. And the damn insurance, the damn insurance is so high. Cause that's, that's the problem right there, bud.

[00:04:09] Um, so three days later, this is unrelated warehouse fires, but three days later in the same town, um, a dude, uh, went and started a fire at the mall in Ontario, the Ontario mall. He went and started a fire at Nordstrom's and then he went over to Marshall's and started a fire over there and they finally caught the guy, but he just kept running around starting fires in different parts of the mall.

[00:04:35] Um, so, uh, this guy that they caught for the warehouse fire, uh, typically first degree arson will give you, um, five to 20 year sentence of prison. I feel like it should even be higher. Well, they told him that they're going to, you know, they're going to go for life sentence. Yeah. So if you're thinking about starting warehouse fire, don't do that because if you shoot a CEO, you also get a life sentence.

[00:05:03] So, you know, you go the other way. Why be nonviolent and just destroy property when you can destroy people's lives. No, neither one is okay, Kevin. Well, I mean, neither one is okay. Maybe don't give life in prison to an arsonist and save that for when an arsonist kills somebody. You're not allowed to do either one. Let's all follow the laws and get along. Right. We are very law abiding citizens.

[00:05:30] In fact, should we be outlawing cigarette lighters? Yes. Matches. He used a cigarette lighter, Zippos, um, anything. I mean, it's dangerous. Flint and steel. Flameless matches is dangerous. Yep. Wooden sticks. You might rub those together really fast for a long period of time. Yep. Kevin, these are the things that people are doing out there. All right.

[00:05:56] So after that, the next day, uh, West Jefferson, Ohio, um, uh, Amazon facility caught on fire. Um, they're still investigating it, but it's possibly arson. Um, then let's see the, uh, uh, college point, New York warehouse fire, uh, five alarm fire. That, uh, April 10th. That was, um, under investigation.

[00:06:24] Uh, April 10th, Lawrence, uh, Georgia transfer station warehouse, possible arson. Um, Wayne County, Ohio warehouse fire, lumber yard. That was an electric fire. It wasn't arson. It was just, uh, bad wiring. Kevin, it's like people are destroying our infrastructure. Bakersfield, California warehouse fire under investigation. Um, Ogden, Utah food warehouse. That was an oven fire. That was dog food.

[00:06:54] Um, let's see here. Newark, New Jersey lumber yard, uh, under investigation. That was a three alarm fire. That was like a, a pretty, pretty good size fire. I mean, lumber yard, like there's a lot of fuel there, you know? Yup. Uh, and then, um, exterior township PA, which was on April 6th. That was a, uh, auto parts warehouse. So, I mean, it's a lot of these places have been going up and I think it's, it's normal

[00:07:23] for warehouse fires to, to happen on a pretty, pretty regular basis. So if you work in a warehouse, just be very conscientious of that. You know, it's, it's dangerous, uh, environment that you're working in. I mean, I think that's one of the things why we wanted to talk about this is it is getting like more and more prevalent. It seems, um, where I am in North Carolina in Rocky Mount, they had, uh, in 2022, we had

[00:07:50] a big QVC factory and it, they had a huge fire. It actually shut down the factory like permanently. Like they just said, screw it. We're not doing this anymore. And, uh, so I, I don't even know where you get your QVC stuff or if it exists or I don't even know where that happens anymore. But, uh, it was basically a big distribution warehouse, that kind of thing.

[00:08:14] And, you know, the, the rumor was that came back to like our plant cause factories in the same town, you know, workers know each other, they show up at, you know, they come apply for jobs at your factory and that kind of thing when they're shuts down. And the rumor was that they, uh, that it was arson and whatever. Now I did just look up the story now to see what the final result was. And the ATF says inconclusive and that they didn't have proof.

[00:08:44] Um, the rumor at the time was that the, there was a person who actually died in the fire and, uh, that they, uh, they were maybe the, uh, culprit that, you know, started the fire was as, as intentional was the thought, you know, what people were saying, but that's all speculation and hearsay. Like, I don't know. I have no idea what happened. And I mean, it's, it's horrible to speak, you know, bad of the people, whatever, but that's, that's the rumor.

[00:09:14] I'm just telling you what people were saying. Um, but yeah, it's crazy. So Kevin, like, how do you even deal with these things? So I guess the one thing is you want to prevent fires, right? Preventing fires in the workplace. Only you can prevent fires or start an arson attack. Yeah. Like if you don't go try and burn down your factory, then your odds are better that you won't get burned alive in a factory.

[00:09:44] Yeah. So of the ways to go all the ways to die, that doesn't seem like the most pleasant, at least to me, you know? Absolutely. So, I mean, that isn't something I would want to do, but you know, Hey, um, all right. So next the big thing is like hot work, right? Um, it will never, you know, in a factory turns out there's welding and grinding and

[00:10:07] whatever, like one, like the factory I work in, we mill engine blocks and we make engine blocks. So there's like, you know, we'll have a big mill disc, you know, with teeth that you run an engine block through and you're cutting the head surface on it or the sides. And there's sparks shooting out, you know, 10 feet in either direction while you're doing it. Especially when you have, you know, dull tools or different things, you get different, you

[00:10:36] know, so sparks everywhere. Now then you're like, wait, well, Chuck, if you're doing that, you're cutting fine metal dust and throwing it in the air and metal dust dust of any kind is flammable. Um, metal dust is a big one. That's, that's pretty flammable. So the big thing is to have proper ventilation, um, getting that crap out of there.

[00:11:02] Uh, I actually know of things being shut down pretty recently because ventilation, you know, and that's one of the things like when OSHA comes in and does an inspection is how are your air handlers and things like that. And I know we went for a good couple of years where the company that we were paying the change out the filters on our air handlers didn't even know where they were or what to do like

[00:11:32] for years. And we're like, Oh, that's kind of a problem that you haven't been doing this and whatever. And things were kind of backing up. And, you know, once you start blowing those, uh, you know, a thousand amp fuses that run the air handler, you're like, maybe something's going on up there. We should go investigate. And then they were like, Ooh, what are these filters? You know, and why are they so clogged?

[00:11:57] Uh, that's the kind of thing, but also, so having a safe work area, right. You know, they tell you when you go in, I think it's, it's supposed to be 50 feet radius of, you know, nothing flammable when, when you're doing hot work. Yeah. And it's hard to find that kind of space. If you have hydraulic tanks that are constantly leaking oil and you even have trays underneath

[00:12:22] them that would maybe collect that oil that, so you just have like little rivers of oil all over the factory. That's a high probability area that now, again, I mean, you could probably drop a match in oil and it probably won't catch on fire. It'll probably just go out, but you probably just go out. But these are things that you have to take into account. Right. And they're like, well, you can cover it up with fire blankets and things like that. And they get saturated so fast. It's just a mess.

[00:12:51] So the thing is keeping a clean work area, right. It is, is definitely a go-to on this having, uh, you know, being aware of the ventilation, um, you know, things like that when you're doing hot work, actually having the fire watch guy paying attention and actually having the fire extinguisher and standing there. And then when you're supposed to do like your follow-up checks on the hot work, actually check it. Yeah.

[00:13:21] Actually check it. Remembering to turn the sprinklers back on after your hot work is done. All right. Kevin, you had a story, something about sprinklers? Well, that was, uh, that was the, uh, that Kimberly Clark warehouse fire. The guy actually started a small fire first and the fire department came, put the fire out and turn the sprinklers off and then left. And then he started the big fire that burned the whole thing down. Like it was well planned out. You know, if you're going to burn down a warehouse full of toilet paper, you know,

[00:13:51] it's the way to have a plan. Yeah. How about we don't burn things down? Let's do that. Yeah. Let's not shoot anyone. Let's not burn anything down. I don't support murdering CEOs. But I mean, if there's a better job, go get that one. Yeah. There's not a better job. No, they're all bad. He's a warehouse worker. Like he would, you know, he doesn't have a whole lot of training. It's sort of a, wait a minute, wait a minute.

[00:14:21] I'm a warehouse worker. Um, I mean, it's not exactly a warehouse, but you get the idea. Yeah. One of the big things is like, they always talk about keeping like exits and, you know, emergency routes clear and well-marked and well-lit and all these things. Everybody's desperate for more space. It seems all the time when it comes to factories and it's square feet and everything is always an issue.

[00:14:51] And I know in ours that aisles will get blocked up with extra material or unfinished parts or things like that. And they'll stack up because there's nowhere to put them and whatever that tends to get things into trouble. Um, you block exits and, and escape routes. So what can you do as an individual, right? That that's really what it comes down to.

[00:15:18] So the big thing is you're going to want to know when I go to work, where are the exits? And I got to say, like, even like in the big factory that I work in, they're putting new buildings and it, like it keeps expanding forever. So where there was an exit a month ago might just be the next building now. Like they're still attached, like it's like metal buildings just keep expanding further

[00:15:47] and further out. I don't understand how this is happening. And a lot of times, like it'll be identical machine, identical looking machine row after row where everything just kind of looks the same. You know, one of the tricks they used to talk about in like a hotel is you should count the amount of doors to the exit. Like, so if you're in a, in a room and you come out, all right, if I turn right, there's

[00:16:17] like three doors before I get to the final stairwell, or if I turn left, there might be 10 doors to the final exit. And when things are completely consumed with smoke and, and overwhelmed, that's, you know, having that knowledge beforehand. And so knowing what's between you and the exit in the factory of where you work day to day

[00:16:42] and where your general, you know, area is knowing where things are in the best exits. Now, say a fire does break out and you're like, Oh, but if I stop this, I can save everybody's job and I can save everybody's, you know, livelihood. And the thing is, if you think it's within your grasp, I know where I work, they're like, try and put it out. You know, don't let it just go out of control. I know your immediate thought is just get out, just get out.

[00:17:11] Well, I mean, if you're trying to survive a fire, that's, that's your best bet is to run for it. Right. But if you're trying to survive your livelihood and your whatever, and it's easy and doable, but they say always put you're in between the fire and the exit, you don't want to get yourself like the exits between you and right. You know, fires between you and the fires between you and the exit, then just make the

[00:17:37] best break you can, you know, to get around it and get the hell out of there. But if like the door on the way out is right behind you and the fires right there, then that's maybe something that you could tackle and, you know, go on. Yeah. So, and I mean, if you're, if you're working in a, in a building, the same building every day, you should, you know, even if it's not something that's prone to fires, you should know where the exits are. You should know where the fire extinguishers are, you know? Absolutely. And that's the thing.

[00:18:06] And, you know, I hate to say it, you know, there, you can be like, well, it's not my job to worry about the fire extinguishers. Like we have a company that comes in and handles that, but, you know, it wouldn't hurt if you like kind of checked it out and like made sure, Hey, this is still working. Look at, look at the date code on here. Is this, you know, there's a pressure gauge on your weight. Yeah. It is the pressure in the go-to range. You know, it's kind of on you.

[00:18:34] Like that's, that's one of the things too, like they talk about with hot work, they don't want you to grab the fire extinguisher off the wall. That's right there to have as your like standby guy watching. They want you to go get another one. So there's one there and what you got when you're doing something extra dangerous for the environment or, you know, that you're in. So that's, that's kind of a big thing. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:19:03] Now, uh, when you're trying to put a fire out with the fire extinguisher, one, you want to make sure you're using the right fire extinguisher for the job. Right. But, um, you know, what you want to do is start at the base of the fire. You don't want to try and smother the flames themselves. You want to smother what's burning. Right. So start at the base and, you know, work out from there. Um, those fire extinguishers run out fast though.

[00:19:32] So you want to really make sure that you're, you know, you're working at the right spot with it. You don't want to just spray in the general direction. Right. Um, I mean, there's, there's a bunch of different types, right? But in theory, if you're in a factory, you're going to have the appropriate fire extinguisher. Right. But so think like there's type a for wooden paper and that kind of stuff. Type B for flammable liquids. Um, C electrical equipment.

[00:20:01] A lot of times you'll see like, it's good for all of them. Right. You know, you don't want to like spray water on the electrical fire. Right. Or water in grease fire. You know, that's the kind of thing. Um, you know, you have K for the kitchen and D for combustible metals, but again, you'll find ones that are universal. A lot of times they're going to have the appropriate fire fire extinguisher in the area, you know, where you're working. So keep that in mind.

[00:20:31] Um, but basically you need to know alternative exits, right? Have like a, this is my go-to of where I would normally go. One of the things I noticed is like my company, they push like having a muster spot for kind of your area. So they can kind of see that everybody got out, but you don't want to, Oh, well we must are outside the front door of the factory.

[00:20:56] So I should go back there, but you got to walk past 10 exits to get there or go the opposite direction of the exit to get there. Don't do that because we always assume everything's a drill, right? Right. You know, when you see, Oh, well I don't see a fire. I don't smell smoke. So I'm just gonna, you know, head out here and you know, that's the thing. Like actually take the quickest exit, like get the hell out.

[00:21:24] You don't need to go same thing. You know, now, now the big thing is like active shooters or whatever. I feel like where I live, you know, you guys have probably heard stories about Rocky Mount, North Carolina. They have shooters every now and again. And now we also can't afford policemen either. So things are not looking good. Yeah. They, they have some issues going on in Rocky Mount, but that's a, you know, it's another day.

[00:21:51] The, uh, so if, if you're like suddenly alerted by a fire, you know, and you want to find that immediate exit and just get the hell out, uh, carbon monoxide breathing smoke overwhelms you, superheated lungs, that kind of stuff. It incapacitates you quickly.

[00:22:17] Um, and that's something that really can do significant damage. Um, not being able to see loss of sense of direction, you know, when you're barely breathing and coughing and whatever, you need to know the layout of where you work and what you're, you know, what you're dealing with and it's going to make a big difference. Um, basically, I don't know. That's it.

[00:22:43] I mean, try and keep those ways clear and get the hell out, you know, being able to stop it. You know, you have that, what triangle for a fire of, you know, it needs air fuel. And, uh, what's the other one, Kevin there, though? I said, elude me at the second here. Chemical reaction. I think it's a diamond now. There's four of them. It's a diamond. Air. Fuel. Uh, chemical reaction. Oh, a spark. Right. Is that the third of the track? Right. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:23:13] Um, and heat. Oh yeah. So yeah, I guess fuel heat. Well, heat is the spark kind of thing. It was the same. Yeah. That's where I was going on that one. All right. Well, let's do the research first. I don't know. Now it's just enough coffee in the morning kind of gets you into trouble, you know? Fire. Yeah. So there was another, uh, uh, fire. Yeah. Um, last week, two weeks ago now.

[00:23:41] Um, somebody, uh, fire bombed Sam Altman's house. Oh. Uh, so it was a Molotov cocktail guy named, uh, Daniel Moreno Gama who was 20. He's from Texas and made a little trip up there to, uh, San Francisco and, uh, through Molotov cocktails, Sam Altman's house. He, uh, I mean, they put it out. Nobody was in danger. The guy was kind of incompetent, but he had a list of people that were a list of people

[00:24:10] and addresses of people that worked with artificial intelligence. And he was trying to try to burn them all up, but. He didn't see that episode we just did last week. Right. It wasn't that we didn't cause it. All right. Cause we did an episode on AI taking things over. I just saw there was a open AI tried to, uh, they were updating something. And so they were, you know, shutting it down and it tried to back itself up on extra servers

[00:24:40] to be able to, you know, make sure it kept existing and preserve itself. And, uh, and then when they asked it why it did it, it was like, no, I didn't do that. What are you talking about? Like a school child. That's, that's the thing is like, if it's a bad liar, you know that you're okay. Like, but as long as we're doing that sneak, you know, when you're a three-year-old is like,

[00:25:05] no, I didn't eat the cookie and you got the crumbs down, you know, all stuck in their cheeks and you know, whatever. And you're like, I know what you did. I know what you did there. But yeah, as AI gets to be a better liar, I just want like AI to stop, uh, patronizing, you know, like, yeah, I get so tired of that's the best idea for an episode ever, ever. Nobody is talking about that.

[00:25:35] And you're just like, uh, now I feel dumb. I just got used. Well, he's always like, don't use AI for anything. It's horrible. Oh, the end of the world. Yeah. And I mean, obviously we just did an episode where we suggested it very well could be the end of the world. But, uh, my big thing with AI is that it's, it's, uh, consuming so much electricity and

[00:26:03] they're like, Oh, everybody should just pay for that. Right. Whoa. Whoa. Wait a minute. What the hell is that? That's not my part. I mean, we already made the AI off of the, our content. You know what I mean? The stuff you've posted on Facebook and the internet and, and it's amazing podcast based on really the inspiration for, you know, for half of AI's evil plans is going to come from here.

[00:26:28] And I might be overinflating our importance in the world, but you know. Yeah. But I mean, they ripped us off to make their thing and then now they're charging for it and it's going to end up killing all of us. And it's our fault. The thing is, it's easy for everybody to say, well, it's like roads, you know, everybody uses them. So we should all pay. Yeah. But are they sharing the profit? Right.

[00:26:54] Cause when we hook them up by sharing the electric bill to support AI, then is it really? Cause then are you cutting me a check when look how much money AI has made? Yeah. Well, no. Okay. Because it read the love. Yeah. Because they use our content to, to make the AI. Then they charge us to run that, the, the servers. And then, uh, they make all sorts of money. It's, I mean, it's brilliant plan business model.

[00:27:24] If you can pull it off. Kevin, you need to, when you shake hands, you need to slip them a little cash. Cause I got to say, paying the cash now is going to pay back later in spades. Yeah. And that's the best thing is you can borrow the money for the bribes. Mm-hmm. You don't even need to come up with it. You borrow the money for the bribes. Do what? Orban did.

[00:27:50] Remember Orban is the guy that just lost the, uh, election in, in Hungary. He was the almost dictator. Cause they still had elections kind of. And, um, for some reason, uh, JD Vance was over there, like fucking cheering him on and, and going to rallies with him, trying to get him reelected. And, uh, he ended up, did lose the election.

[00:28:12] And the guy that got elected in his place said, Hey, uh, so our tax money has been going to CPAC for the past few years. Like now you're, now you're seeing that motivation. Now you, why JD Vance was over there, like trying to get him reelected. You just got to bribe the right people, man. That sounds right. I like that. No, I don't like it. That's the problem, Kevin. That is the problem.

[00:28:41] That's, I, I just saw a, uh, a meme on socialism and I got to say socialism and government control kind of go hand in hand. You probably didn't realize. And the guy was like, yeah, if I had a dollar for every time socialism worked, I'd have zero dollars. And then the other guy was like, yeah, but if you had a dollar or he goes, if you had the dollar and socialism worked, you'd have zero dollars.

[00:29:10] And I'm like, yeah, now I'm seeing it. You know, that's kind of the thing is it's just out of control. Like I don't mind, you know, we all got to work together and whatever. And we don't want to regulate the hell out of things. That's, that's where it all goes wrong. Right. Is, you know, we're like, oh, well, if we, we make it illegal for government to do this and we make it illegal for people. I mean, I'm good for limiting government. Right. Let's do that.

[00:29:37] Let's limit government and what they can do. But let's stop limiting people. Let's, cause the thing is, if people don't have the power to take your stuff, like a lot, your money for your electric bill to go to, you know, AI and that kind of stuff. Like right now the government sets up, they only allow like one company to run the electrical grid in a certain area.

[00:30:05] Cause if we had unfair competition, well, maybe if there was competition, then we wouldn't be getting $600 monthly electric bills. And you wouldn't. And exactly. That's the thing. Um, you know, uh, it's, you know, people are like, well, we tried capitalism. It doesn't work. Well, is it really capitalism? Cause government's got their hand in everything right now.

[00:30:33] And, you know, it just kind of escalates into ugliness. Kevin, you know, I know you're not exactly, are you the big fan of capitalism? How do you, how do you take it? I am. I just don't, I just don't see capitalism. Right. Happening. Right. It's not the crony capitalism thing, you know? Right. Like nepotism, that sort of shit where your buddy gets the good deal and gets the contract instead of like the person that comes in with the lowest price. That's not really capitalism.

[00:31:02] That's just being an asshole and bribing people. Exactly. You know, and that seems like it's happening more and more. I don't think it's happening more than it was. I think it's happening like right in our fucking faces now though. Like you can see people being bribed, you know, live on TV and everyone's just like, oh, you know, they, they've been always been doing that. Yeah. That that's fine, but it's also a crime, you know? So whatever, I guess it's, I guess everybody's cool with that now.

[00:31:31] And we just pretend like it's not happening and go about our life. Sounds right. So anyway, with that, I think, you know, thoughts, concerns, put it in the comments. Let us know what you guys want to hear about, you know, what's going on. No, you know, should Kevin be stocking up on toilet paper? That's really what it comes down to, you know? I mean, secret is I did.

[00:31:59] As soon as I saw that, where that, that toilet paper warehouse, it's like, yeah, yeah. I got another 32 pack of stuff in the closet. Kevin, you know, I gotta say, it's sad that when I go to work, I'm like, I can't crap there. Cause that toilet paper is just brutal. And it just, the, the Scott is like dream soft compared to what they got it. You got to bring your own work, you know?

[00:32:27] And I know you're like, but Scott, isn't that soft? And I'm like, I know that's the problem. Now you guys are getting me picking up what I'm putting down. So anyway, we do appreciate you guys. And yeah, let us know what you want to hear with that. Stay safe. We'll talk to you guys next week.