The Hard Part Of Prepping

[00:00:11] [SPEAKER_04]: Well alright, welcome back to the Survival and Basic Badass Podcast, Kevin and Chuck.

[00:00:18] [SPEAKER_04]: Well today I wanted to talk about the hard part of prepping.

[00:00:23] [SPEAKER_04]: The things that aren't all cool fun gear and gadgets.

[00:00:27] [SPEAKER_04]: You know, some gadgets may come into play on this one.

[00:00:33] [SPEAKER_04]: But it's not just the fun, oh I get to spend money like women going out and buying new purses and shoes.

[00:00:41] [SPEAKER_04]: Oh I get new guns and it's exciting. Like that part sounds great.

[00:00:45] [SPEAKER_04]: It's basically the same thing.

[00:00:48] [SPEAKER_04]: It is right? I mean they're like I can't go out in public and get a job or have the right

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_04]: friends or get my kids in the right school without being the social butterfly.

[00:00:59] [SPEAKER_04]: And then there's me and Kevin and we're like yeah we need the right guns so the guys at the club will be like yeah.

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Everyone needs to think I'm the coolest guy right?

[00:01:09] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm the coolest. Wow that gun is really big.

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure that's exactly how it works but that's,

[00:01:18] [SPEAKER_04]: that's so it turns out that things can go wrong with prepping.

[00:01:26] [SPEAKER_04]: It can, it doesn't always go as planned and in a way life doesn't always go as planned.

[00:01:34] [SPEAKER_04]: And I mean to be honest that is why we prepare right?

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_04]: That's why we are preppers is because the unexpected can happen.

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_04]: But believe it or not even as a prepper sometimes your preps can go unexpected.

[00:01:50] [SPEAKER_04]: They can turn you know bad so like a lot of it for me is like homesteading fails kind of have

[00:01:59] [SPEAKER_04]: have really gotten you know they're not how I imagined it in my mind or how easy it would be.

[00:02:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Like anybody who's been following this show for a long time you know for years I was

[00:02:11] [SPEAKER_04]: talking about I'm gonna get rabbits and we're gonna have endless meat and it's gonna be great.

[00:02:16] [SPEAKER_04]: Well then I have all these kids that are like I can't eat the bunnies that we raised and that

[00:02:22] [SPEAKER_04]: are cute and you know and you're like oh yeah.

[00:02:25] [SPEAKER_06]: I mean that is the problem with raising cute animals for me.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_06]: You know like chickens you can look, you look in their eyes it's like looking in

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_06]: shark eyes they're just dead inside right? Evil little monsters and if you were you know

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_06]: if you were any smaller they'd have no problem fucking you up.

[00:02:43] [SPEAKER_04]: But they're dinosaurs right? Their legacy of dinosaurs isn't that what we're always

[00:02:48] [SPEAKER_04]: talking about? I feel nothing when I kill a chicken or even a duck.

[00:02:53] [SPEAKER_04]: I went out this morning this is another and the story was actually going to make it.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_04]: I went out this morning we had had a hen sit on eggs and again another frustration right?

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_04]: We're used to getting say 20 eggs a day that's a lot all summer long but all the sudden they got

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_04]: you know broody or whatever where they want to hatch babies right?

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_04]: So all of a sudden they're all sitting on them they're laying eggs in weird spots that

[00:03:22] [SPEAKER_04]: you're never going to find and they're doing all this stuff to be a pain in the butt and my

[00:03:27] [SPEAKER_04]: egg production goes down to like six or seven a day. Right now the cool thing is I have

[00:03:32] [SPEAKER_04]: chickens that the plan is there's enough for my family every day which six or seven that works

[00:03:38] [SPEAKER_04]: that does it but to be honest that's about what we use. I mean we plan for a lot because we've

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_04]: built our diet around it around the things that we grow on the farm and we do so you know that

[00:03:49] [SPEAKER_04]: is the thing. So anyway so sure enough like we had one had two three babies hatched and

[00:04:01] [SPEAKER_04]: first one disappeared and then like three days later the other two were gone and to be honest

[00:04:08] [SPEAKER_04]: that's unusual. We've had good success up till now where pretty much every baby that's hatched

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_04]: every baby that we've hatched ourselves has grown up and had no problem. Right. The ones from the

[00:04:23] [SPEAKER_04]: store you know two or three will die on occasion but usually it's a very low percentage

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_04]: but also the ones we do from the store we keep in a very controlled environment whereas

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_04]: the ones that hatch naturally we let nature kind of take its course. So anyway bottom line

[00:04:39] [SPEAKER_04]: we start hearing the little chick noises coming out of the bushes and we're like oh somebody

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_04]: had babies you know we go look sure enough this one mom has got 13 babies underneath her.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_04]: Dude one mom sits on all 13 at once is like you know pups out her butt as much as she can

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_04]: and she's doing it. Well so the wife was worried about it and we just butchered

[00:05:04] [SPEAKER_04]: turkeys so we had this like net cage kind of thing that you could set on it kind of

[00:05:10] [SPEAKER_04]: like a greenhouse kind of structure but it's got like chicken wire on the outside

[00:05:14] [SPEAKER_04]: so she drops that on top of like it was actually like an overgrown garden where she's hanging out

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_04]: to basically keep the fox and stuff the big thing whatever whatever was in those checks

[00:05:27] [SPEAKER_04]: right whatever got the last ones to protect her and it's pretty big it's like eight by eight

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_04]: or something whatever. So anyway so I go out this morning to feed her and one of the chicks

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_04]: is dead and whatever it happens it ended up like they get this like impacted butt thing and

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_04]: when we're taking care of them it's something you look for every day you pick up each one

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_04]: and you kind of look at them and you clean out their butt. It's a wonderful joy that you

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_04]: get to do. It sounds like fun. And yeah but with the brutal mom you're not getting in there

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_04]: you know with these it's whatever so I go in to grab the chick she is furious she's like

[00:06:08] [SPEAKER_04]: she jumps and and like roosters will do this usually not a hen but she bites into my leg and

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_04]: is holding the pant leg and clawing the shit out of my lower shin and like assaulting me

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_05]: for coming in and trying to take her dead baby away and I'm like you know this is how

[00:06:25] [SPEAKER_04]: it has to be and it just like I said it's not the fun part. Back to the rabbits though

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_04]: the rabbits I have to butcher them and it takes me it shouldn't but it does. It takes me like 30

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_04]: even sometimes 40 minutes depending on the one to butcher it and when you are hatching five at a

[00:06:53] [SPEAKER_04]: time you're like oh what am I gonna do with all these rabbits and I got to get rid of them

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_04]: but you don't want to just keep them where you're feeding them past you know once they

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_04]: get the proper weight because then you're just throwing money away on feed.

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_04]: Nothing just to have pet rabbits. And now I'm just storing pet rabbits all over the place

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_04]: and that's my point. We did turkeys and the turkeys every week like they were eating so much

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_04]: feed like I no joke I was at least for four turkeys I'd say at least 10 bucks a week per

[00:07:25] [SPEAKER_04]: chicken or per turkey right per bird and I was throwing you know 10 bucks a week per one so

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_04]: you're 40 bucks a week 40 bucks a week and I'm like all right they're ready their size

[00:07:38] [SPEAKER_04]: I don't have time right now. I don't have time right now and then when I did the bunch of them

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_04]: when I did the bunch of them it took like six hours to butcher all these birds and they

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_04]: were huge. I mean they're all like 22, 24 pound, 25 pound you know turkeys but it was just

[00:08:00] [SPEAKER_04]: exhausting and I'm like I'm dying out there and people think it's going to be so much easier

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_04]: and you know I don't understand how that that plays out like that but that's something

[00:08:12] [SPEAKER_04]: you want to really be aware of like how much feed you end up spending because you

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_04]: don't get the time to butcher them and to whatever I mean you need it you know I butcher them all

[00:08:22] [SPEAKER_04]: eventually right I just won't do it in the timeline that I'm looking for and that's you

[00:08:27] [SPEAKER_06]: can buy a turkey cheaper than uh yeah you know obviously the issue is not and damn sam's club

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_04]: in their five dollar rotisserie chickens oh they're so good too and I'm gonna go freaking

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_06]: you know come on you're gonna spend 20 dollars and then have to butcher it yourself

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_06]: and all that shit yeah no I mean one of those things is uh you know some of those things are

[00:08:49] [SPEAKER_06]: are definitely maybe not worthwhile as far as saving money but it's good for um you know

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_06]: it's good for when you need it and you can't go to the grocery store and grab a turkey

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_06]: you know turkeys are you know kind of disgusting to begin with they're not the best uh

[00:09:06] [SPEAKER_06]: they're not the best meat they're not the best food but you know whatever we do it we

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_06]: historically in America because uh you know that's our thanksgiving deal I think most people only eat

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_06]: turkey once a uh once a year and then you know maybe on some cold cuts some sandwiches and stuff

[00:09:22] [SPEAKER_06]: but whatever I mean a lot of that I think a lot of people underestimate the uh amount of

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_06]: time and effort it takes to actually butcher animals to actually get you know enough meat

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_06]: to make it worthwhile um you know I know with uh sometimes when I'll butcher something I'll just

[00:09:44] [SPEAKER_06]: take the breast you know if I butcher a duck I might just take the breast and

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_06]: leave the rest of it um but you know it all uh it all comes down to what you're into

[00:09:55] [SPEAKER_06]: um don't raise food for me if uh if you're not willing to do the butchering you know I

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_06]: know a lot of people that do that raise meat chickens and then have somebody else butcher them

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_06]: and it's like uh you know you could just buy it from the grocery store at this point you're

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_06]: you're wasting a lot more time and money on on getting this meat than it should cost so

[00:10:22] [SPEAKER_06]: one of the things that I think is is one of my biggest preps is I spend too much money on

[00:10:30] [SPEAKER_06]: like uh on shit that I you know it's cool right it's fun you know but then I've got all this

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_06]: shit that I used two or three times and then sits in a closet god god forbid I actually needed

[00:10:43] [SPEAKER_06]: one of these things like I'd have to take through the garage for 20 minutes just to find it

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_06]: you know and a lot of the times that that sort of stuff uh that sort of stuff just gets

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_06]: you know stuck in the garage under a bunch of other shit you don't use it forgotten misplaced

[00:11:02] [SPEAKER_06]: whatever right or you know you end up buying a second one that you already have because you

[00:11:06] [SPEAKER_06]: couldn't find the first one oh you know or you get it and you stick it in the closet

[00:11:11] [SPEAKER_06]: never use it and don't know how to use it you know um recently just got some uh walkie

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_06]: talkies and uh we were playing with them we were out camping and stuff and uh you know of

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_06]: course my dumb ass I've got it set to the same channel I'm talking to my wife and I hear somebody

[00:11:29] [SPEAKER_06]: else like you know talking about you know where to park vehicles and stuff like that and like

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_06]: right talking but no that's not her different person altogether you know changing channels and

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_06]: and that sort of thing and you know it's obviously not a big yeah I you know big deal

[00:11:44] [SPEAKER_06]: but it's you know it's one of those examples where uh you know if you don't use your stuff

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_06]: then you don't know how to use your stuff and it's it's just a waste of time waste of

[00:11:53] [SPEAKER_04]: money you know waste everything exactly so that's the big thing is to get out there and I

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_04]: you know apply right because that's how we learn the things that are gonna you know mess up

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_04]: and you know I think we had mentioned in the past that you know I mean that's how

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_04]: you decide you know hey I'm going to keep doing this hey this is a good move for my family

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_04]: this is whatever but is by practicing and applying it right and you learn where things

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_04]: go wrong you know a million years ago I talked about how I was prepared for everything

[00:12:27] [SPEAKER_04]: but then when the power was out I didn't have a way to make coffee and I'm like oh that you know

[00:12:34] [SPEAKER_04]: you know and luckily you know the wife had somewhere in some camping gear from yesteryear

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_04]: some kind of percolator or whatever oh but I guess the the problem was

[00:12:44] [SPEAKER_04]: the beans weren't ground up and you know I took I remember I took a butcher knife and I

[00:12:49] [SPEAKER_04]: you know chopped it up it worked out but it's not you know you just gotta you don't know what

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_04]: you don't know right that's the whole thing I mean and that's that's kind of uh that's the

[00:13:01] [SPEAKER_06]: kind of uh the point of prepping is is I get excited you know the power goes out

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_06]: oh there's a hurricane coming hell yeah you know I get excited for this stuff

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_06]: because there's not going to be a major emergency uh you know with just a hurricane

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_06]: or a power outage or a snowstorm but um you know you want to uh try your stuff out you

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_06]: want to make sure it's working you may want to make sure everything uh does what it's supposed

[00:13:27] [SPEAKER_06]: to be doing when it's supposed to be doing it and uh you know those are those are good cases

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_06]: and I've done shit before like turning off the main breaker to my house you know turning

[00:13:38] [SPEAKER_06]: power off for the day and just going about my day and and seeing what my issues are

[00:13:44] [SPEAKER_06]: but you know that doesn't turning the power off for a day isn't really a simulation of what's

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_06]: going to be like having the power off for a week or a month you know and I know a lot of people

[00:13:56] [SPEAKER_06]: that are seriously in prepping um you know they're prepping for for doomsday that's yeah

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_06]: that's cool but you're prepped for doomsday but you don't have a snow shovel that's not

[00:14:09] [SPEAKER_06]: broken to clear your driveway when you get three inches of snow and then of course your

[00:14:13] [SPEAKER_04]: wife always turns on you with that she'll be like you're the prepper why do you not

[00:14:18] [SPEAKER_06]: think I'm like yeah I dropped the ball on that one you know yeah my wife always makes fun of me

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_06]: because she says she's more of a prepper than I am and it's kind of true honestly every mom

[00:14:30] [SPEAKER_04]: every mom is secretly like a prepper you know they always have in their purse well I'm

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_04]: ready for this you know you can't raise little ones without you know being prepared

[00:14:40] [SPEAKER_06]: for the unexpected you know yeah and everybody knows you know everybody knows that story about

[00:14:46] [SPEAKER_06]: their mom's mom you know mother-in-law grandma that you know took every time they bought rice

[00:14:52] [SPEAKER_06]: took a handful of rice and put it in a separate container so that when they couldn't afford to

[00:14:56] [SPEAKER_06]: buy rice they had some they had some stash you know saving up a little bit even if

[00:15:00] [SPEAKER_06]: you're broke I mean that I think a lot of that comes from the um uh from the great

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_06]: depression era individuals that we know in our lives you know where they had these little tricks

[00:15:11] [SPEAKER_06]: just how to make things stretch a little bit further you know right I remember growing up eating

[00:15:17] [SPEAKER_06]: uh eating meatloaf with oatmeal mixed in it to make yes but that's disgusting it's gross

[00:15:23] [SPEAKER_06]: Kevin no don't do that no you're just ruining the meatloaf you're just making it worse and

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_06]: you know if you have 10 kids and you're trying to make the meat stretch that's that's

[00:15:33] [SPEAKER_06]: great but um you know I'm a grown-ass man I can afford as much meat as I want

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_06]: you know we're not doing that bullshit Kevin um you know but I mean a lot of that stuff comes

[00:15:45] [SPEAKER_06]: down to uh your experiences right um stuff you've already had to deal with before

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_06]: problems you ran into before that's how you really know how to zone in you know how to

[00:15:59] [SPEAKER_06]: ruin on the stuff that you're you're missing um another thing that I made a mistake of a lot

[00:16:09] [SPEAKER_06]: and uh when I first started prepping is buying bulk food that is shitty that you don't want to

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_06]: eat you know what I mean yeah it's got a five-year shelf life well guess what you're not going

[00:16:22] [SPEAKER_06]: to eat it for five it's going to go bad anyway because you're not going to want to

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't stock spam anymore because I've eaten spam and I don't like it I'm not interested in

[00:16:34] [SPEAKER_06]: eating it well you don't know the spam recipes every time you say it I get 20 emails yep I get

[00:16:42] [SPEAKER_06]: I don't give a shit I ain't trying to do goofy ass recipes I ain't eating it you know

[00:16:48] [SPEAKER_06]: I've had spam I eat spam occasionally and nothing changed you know I didn't like peas as

[00:16:56] [SPEAKER_06]: I grew up and now I like peas spam that never changed though but I mean it's a lot of stuff

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_06]: like that I'm just using that as an example but a lot of stuff that you store up you know pinto

[00:17:09] [SPEAKER_06]: beans and kidney kidney beans and then you're eating kidney beans that's disgusting and have

[00:17:14] [SPEAKER_04]: you tried to cook these dry beans you have to realize about the soaking and the time that

[00:17:19] [SPEAKER_04]: you have to put in you're not just dropping those beans in the pot making dinner right

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_04]: exactly I mean you might drop in the pot yesterday and make dinner today

[00:17:29] [SPEAKER_05]: but you're not you know yeah slow got you um a little red buys for you um

[00:17:38] [SPEAKER_04]: anyway yeah no there's so much out there that can you know go wrong now another thing that

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_04]: gets people is storage right putting your stuff in a safe place and praying that predators

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_04]: don't get it um you know it's so often people come back to their oh I bought 50 rolls of toilet

[00:17:57] [SPEAKER_04]: paper and put them in the shed and they come out and the mice have a house that's you know

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_04]: and their butts are clean you know a house made of uh shreds and uh-huh and clean butts

[00:18:09] [SPEAKER_04]: and you're stuck you know that's the problem yeah I think another thing that people do along

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_06]: that same lines is is keeping all their preps in one spot you know what I mean yeah uh I had some

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_06]: preps in my basement and I we got a big rain and my basement flooded and ruined a bunch of

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_04]: shit right you know the roof leaks whatever right um you know you have to be aware and

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_04]: that's the big thing with all in one spot you know all of a sudden fema's gonna come

[00:18:34] [SPEAKER_04]: knock on your door and they hey where are your preps and your little kid's like in the garage

[00:18:40] [SPEAKER_04]: so if you had your preps in the garage and under the bed then you'd be in right that's the trick

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah I think um I think a lot of that stuff goes with uh you know everybody is limited on

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_06]: their storage space you know and everybody that you know owns a house probably has way more

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_06]: shit than they need boxes you know I'm right now looking at boxes and boxes of winter clothes

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_06]: you know just stacked up along the wall and that's fine you know you switch you switch them out

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_06]: and that's fine but I mean you get to a point where you don't have enough room to put the

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_06]: shit that you need anymore and you stick it in places that might not be the ideal situation

[00:19:23] [SPEAKER_06]: you know I keep a lot of stuff in my garage but it's not temperature controlled so you

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_06]: know your paint's gonna be ruined if you leave it out over there and it gets you know

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_06]: freezes and then thaws and freezes and thaws you know a lot of stuff like that can get damaged

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_06]: not just uh your preps but just your basic stuff that you use every day um you know if

[00:19:43] [SPEAKER_06]: you have a damp basement not a great place to store your you know your dried foods

[00:19:49] [SPEAKER_06]: you know if you have a freezing um you know garage like like I've got some of your food

[00:19:56] [SPEAKER_06]: isn't going to be good they're getting thawed and frozen and thawed and froze it's not

[00:20:00] [SPEAKER_06]: keep dehydrated stuff out there but you know some things aren't aren't going to hold up well to

[00:20:06] [SPEAKER_06]: that sort of stuff right so you really have to be conscientious of where you're storing your

[00:20:10] [SPEAKER_06]: stuff and have them in different locations so that you don't ruin all your shit in one go

[00:20:14] [SPEAKER_04]: you know 100 percent um my big thing right so we had bought I used to buy a uh it would

[00:20:22] [SPEAKER_04]: depend when I had all all my boys and everybody living at home all the kids we would

[00:20:27] [SPEAKER_04]: buy a half a cow every year and I think one year I bought a quarter cow but a quarter cow

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER_04]: is still pretty significant I think at the time it cost me about 750 bucks something like that

[00:20:38] [SPEAKER_04]: a half you know was doubled at about 1400 I don't remember which one it was I just know

[00:20:44] [SPEAKER_04]: it filled my upright freezer top to bottom right and I had just bought a cow and it was

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_04]: like no joke less than a week after I bought it like we had eaten like two pieces of meat out of

[00:21:01] [SPEAKER_04]: it and that freezer shut off and just melted the door opened and I come in and there's just

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_04]: blood all over the floor from it all just right yeah and you're just like damn it I didn't even

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_04]: tell the guy you know I was like I can't even tell him that you know and then I had to go

[00:21:21] [SPEAKER_04]: later and I'm like hey oh shit because you know I just picked it up from the butcher and yeah

[00:21:26] [SPEAKER_05]: and I'm like yeah so that that that hurt that and going to the dump and trying to sneak in all

[00:21:33] [SPEAKER_05]: those big black bags of horrible smelling for that guy in the middle of the summer rotting me

[00:21:38] [SPEAKER_05]: yeah that was not going to be his best day either but you know hey you do you right

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_06]: choose your fate yeah one of the other things I see a lot of people do is is they get really

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_06]: into prepping right yeah and then their family is not really interested in it so they just do

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_06]: it all by themselves that's that's fine it's better than nothing but if something goes wrong

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_06]: and you're not there they're all fucked yeah they don't know where it is they don't know

[00:22:11] [SPEAKER_04]: what it's used for what it's about it can really be we did talk about way back about doing the

[00:22:18] [SPEAKER_04]: like family binder you know leaving people that's right the clues but you still have to kind of

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_04]: hey at least if nothing else go here and go to the tab of hurricane break in whatever and at

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_04]: least you can you know power out you can have something to get you in the right direction

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_04]: but it can be um you know I definitely have read in like the prepper novels where you see other

[00:22:44] [SPEAKER_04]: people it goes out that like the wife donated a bunch to charity because we had so much extra

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_04]: you know you had all that all those things a deodorant and stuff and they were just going

[00:22:56] [SPEAKER_04]: to go bad and I had to give it away it was just taking up space right I needed more room

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_04]: for my new shoes for my new shoes yeah my new shoes

[00:23:06] [SPEAKER_06]: and be the probably the oldest joke um shoes yeah the women love shoes I don't I don't know

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_06]: maybe I just don't have the same experience with the women in my lives but uh I don't know

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_06]: I always yeah it's not my problem it's that in airplane food it seems to be like the

[00:23:22] [SPEAKER_06]: hackiest stand-up comic shit you know airplane food all right yeah um

[00:23:28] [SPEAKER_06]: um let's talk about uh prepping for one season I was talking to somebody about prepping and

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_06]: they're like well you know it wouldn't be an issue I'd just be eating a lot of squash my

[00:23:40] [SPEAKER_06]: wife has this garden we just you know tons of squash well that's great if you're in

[00:23:45] [SPEAKER_06]: trouble in the fall you know yeah if right the rest of your the year you're fucked though

[00:23:50] [SPEAKER_04]: you know but we can eat hot peppers all the time you know it's I got them and you know

[00:23:57] [SPEAKER_06]: great but you're not freezing your squash you're not storing your squash you're eating it when it

[00:24:01] [SPEAKER_06]: grows and that's fresh vegetables and it's great it's nice that's a nice thing to do

[00:24:05] [SPEAKER_06]: but that's not prepping you know that's gardening and it's different different thing

[00:24:10] [SPEAKER_06]: all together uh canning your food uh making jellies and jams you know uh pickling your

[00:24:17] [SPEAKER_06]: your cucumbers that all that stuff is great but it's not the same as just you know I

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_06]: some people say well I don't have to worry about water storage I've got this uh you know

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_06]: the creek I got a creek yeah that creek is is frozen four months out of the year

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_06]: you know what I mean like you're gonna be out there with a hatchet trying to like

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_06]: break it up and and thaw it out like what do you what is your ultimate plan here you

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_03]: know Kevin the cool guys use a chainsaw to cut into the creek I'm just saying

[00:24:46] [SPEAKER_06]: putting that out all right sorry sorry my bad I I broke my man card yeah yeah but no exactly

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_04]: you have people yeah they don't realize you know that's the same thing as as people deciding

[00:25:00] [SPEAKER_04]: well I'm gonna just go shoot a deer I see deer all the time I hit one on my car just last

[00:25:06] [SPEAKER_04]: winter I mean yeah not really the answer no it's not you know honestly when there's no

[00:25:15] [SPEAKER_06]: tags there's no season and everybody's looking for meat and anybody that owns a gun is going

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_06]: to shoot at everything they see good luck about two weeks later you're not going to see a goddamn

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_04]: thing and the thing is too like especially if you're in like a rural neighborhood or something

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_04]: you know you might see some deer around but they're taking off they're going deep into

[00:25:34] [SPEAKER_04]: the woods or up the mountain or just the deer are smart enough to take off now one a lot of

[00:25:41] [SPEAKER_04]: are going to get shot and disappear but also the third that are left are going to go be the ones

[00:25:48] [SPEAKER_04]: that are smart enough to go hide you know further into the woods or the the rougher terrain and

[00:25:53] [SPEAKER_04]: and you're just really going to lose it um that's always but also you know where you

[00:26:00] [SPEAKER_04]: you touched on like hatchets and stuff but you go out there and you're using tools that

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_04]: you're not exactly familiar with that you're not using every day um and you know a lot of times

[00:26:12] [SPEAKER_04]: you know people think oh well I would never hurt myself with a hatchet or a saw or whatever

[00:26:16] [SPEAKER_04]: but also when you're food deprived and when you're extra hungry that's when your mind starts

[00:26:23] [SPEAKER_04]: to slip a little bit and you start to make little mistakes you're overtired you're you

[00:26:29] [SPEAKER_04]: your brain is like kind of in that low operation mode kind of thing the power saver mode if you

[00:26:35] [SPEAKER_04]: will right and that's the thing and then that's when you make the mistakes and you slip and you

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER_04]: cut yourself and you need to really be careful and one injury can you know cripple how things

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_04]: are going to go and that's something that people need to really be aware of um you know

[00:26:58] [SPEAKER_04]: cut your hand with an axe and you get a big gash and it needs 25 stitches and whatever

[00:27:03] [SPEAKER_04]: you know what not that big a deal you wrap your hand you're not that dependent on it for

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_04]: everything in life you can go kind of function and it'll heal up in a week or two and

[00:27:14] [SPEAKER_04]: you know you could use a little vacation if you had to or some sick time and it's not

[00:27:20] [SPEAKER_04]: the end of the world right but if everything is dependent on you getting things situated

[00:27:26] [SPEAKER_04]: before winter or before the angry mob comes up out of the city then things become a little

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_04]: more crucial and time sensitive and it's so important that you're just aware of the

[00:27:38] [SPEAKER_04]: possibilities and you kind of take a little extra caution right um that's what i would think

[00:27:45] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah i i see that a lot on the uh on the uh you know i watch a lot of like bushcraft

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_06]: survival uh shows and stuff and i i see they fall apart people that have a lot of experience

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah dripping and falling on on their hatchet and getting a gash or you know whatever

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_06]: something you know a blade slipping getting a big cut and you know that's not the end of

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_06]: the world but do you really want to be dealing with stitching yourself up and making sure you

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_06]: don't get an infection you know when you don't have access to as much you know clean water

[00:28:19] [SPEAKER_06]: and antibiotics in the doctor's office that you want you know just i mean imagine you're not

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_04]: washing your hands in a clean sink with soap for a week what do your hands look like you

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_04]: know yeah you're probably rinsing them off in a creek or something you're coming along here

[00:28:35] [SPEAKER_04]: and there but are they really bacteria free are they really clean when you get a cut

[00:28:40] [SPEAKER_04]: or are they kind of nasty and that's that's what people i think don't realize

[00:28:44] [SPEAKER_06]: you know you can really get into trouble yeah um one of the other things that i i've had a

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_06]: problem with is like forgetting about the preps that i've already gotten you know uh

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_06]: buying something buying two of of some shit that i barely am going to use with the one thing

[00:29:06] [SPEAKER_06]: you know um and i've got i've got cabinets full of like bullshit prepper stuff that

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_06]: is never going to come up i have a uh tactical rope dispenser which is the most retarded thing

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_06]: that i've ever bought or ever used and uh you know you can just carry rope it's just as easy

[00:29:28] [SPEAKER_06]: but you know whatever um you know i i do waste money on buying stuff that i already have

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_06]: that maybe i don't i can't find it you know but it's like i buy bullets

[00:29:42] [SPEAKER_06]: i mean i already have them

[00:29:49] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah another one of the things that i i see is um you know youtube is a great like uh resource

[00:29:55] [SPEAKER_06]: 100 anything that you can want to do all sorts of all sorts of interesting stuff on there

[00:30:01] [SPEAKER_06]: medical stuff smoking meat you know gardening all that stuff uh but when you don't have the

[00:30:08] [SPEAKER_06]: when you don't have electricity it'd be nice to have a couple of books on how to do that so you

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_06]: can look stuff up and reference it um you know i still print books can you even buy books anymore

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_06]: if you go to the library they give away books oh there's like uh thrift stores and stuff and

[00:30:25] [SPEAKER_06]: it's like you know you can get books for like you know a dollar for a dollar yeah exactly

[00:30:30] [SPEAKER_06]: exactly and you know i actually go through those when i see like somebody selling a whole

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_06]: of books i'll go through them and see if there's any prepping books you know there's a lot of stuff

[00:30:40] [SPEAKER_06]: that can be prepping maybe they're not prepping books but you know when they somebody has that

[00:30:46] [SPEAKER_06]: book that's like 101 ways to cook spam maybe i should pick that up you know maybe now we're

[00:30:52] [SPEAKER_06]: seeing where you're falling short uh but i mean those are those are the types of things

[00:30:57] [SPEAKER_06]: it's nice to have a reference when the power is out yeah you can look something up and and

[00:31:03] [SPEAKER_06]: oh this is how i'm supposed to do it this is the best way to this is where i'm making my mistake

[00:31:10] [SPEAKER_06]: so i think that's one of the things that is overlooked by a lot of preppers they

[00:31:14] [SPEAKER_06]: they stock up you know 10 years worth of food and uh you know then they don't they don't know

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_06]: how to uh properly address a wound you know or you know 101 things that can come up

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_06]: that you might not think of that you can reference in a book and double check make

[00:31:31] [SPEAKER_06]: sure you're doing it right make sure you're doing it the easiest way instead of you know

[00:31:35] [SPEAKER_06]: the most complicated way and you know um as much as you train as much as information as

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_06]: you take in you know you're not going to be able to remember everything for every situation

[00:31:48] [SPEAKER_04]: you know all the time oh the worst is that you know you you do all the prepping you get

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_04]: perfect you have the garden the 10 years of survival food you have the ammo the bullets

[00:32:03] [SPEAKER_04]: the everything and then somebody with a scoped rifle from you know 300 yards walks up and just

[00:32:10] [SPEAKER_04]: shoots you while you're out there in the garden and it was all for naught you know it's

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_04]: these things can happen and you know you hope that doesn't happen but right i mean these

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_04]: things you know that's what all you can do is the best you can but you need the redundancy

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_04]: you know a lot of why people prep is to take care of their family right and to make sure

[00:32:33] [SPEAKER_04]: that you have people who are going to be able to at least step up and you know handle the

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_04]: things beyond you that you're not the only one with any training the only one who can take

[00:32:43] [SPEAKER_04]: care of things you know yeah you know it sucks when i'm not here but you know you also

[00:32:49] [SPEAKER_04]: or the same thing you know what if i'm out of town on the business trip and it's going to take

[00:32:53] [SPEAKER_04]: me five days to get back because i'm walking you know and we're riding a bicycle or whatever it is

[00:33:02] [SPEAKER_04]: but are all my preps and everything going to be gone when i get home you know i mean is is my

[00:33:08] [SPEAKER_04]: wife and kids going to be able to defend it and and take care of things you know these are

[00:33:14] [SPEAKER_04]: so important to cross train and to kind of you know get everybody on board and also have

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_04]: kind of a community you know to have neighbors that you know can help out or

[00:33:25] [SPEAKER_04]: you know some kind of a mutual assistance group or something where hey you know look out for

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_06]: mine you know and and that matters yeah i think uh i think a lot of i think what we're talking

[00:33:40] [SPEAKER_06]: about today is a lot of that sort of um that sort of thing where it's it's great to spend all your

[00:33:48] [SPEAKER_06]: money and and get all your shit and get everything set not all your money but get all your stuff

[00:33:53] [SPEAKER_06]: shed up but set up and shit but it's easy to waste money on bullshit that you don't need

[00:33:59] [SPEAKER_06]: you know i probably buy way too much gear that is never going to be useful in any way

[00:34:07] [SPEAKER_06]: you know what i mean and it just you look at the cabinet for 10 years and then when i die

[00:34:12] [SPEAKER_06]: somebody's going to throw it in the garbage because it's a useless piece of shit yeah and

[00:34:16] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah i buy that stuff i mean whatever but uh you know another thing that i think is um

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_06]: uh important is is uh that a lot of people don't stock um is uh like fuel for your stuff

[00:34:35] [SPEAKER_06]: um you know camp stoves i've got a little space heater that runs on uh those mini pro

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_06]: two propane tanks your colman stove that runs in those probes those are all great things to have

[00:34:45] [SPEAKER_06]: they're a little expensive sometimes and you get them whatever but you know if you have one

[00:34:51] [SPEAKER_06]: propane tank it's not going to last you long enough to to make it more than a day or two

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_06]: you know what i mean you're going to be cooking back to cooking on a fire like

[00:35:00] [SPEAKER_06]: some sort of caveman and uh you know it's it's pointless you wasted all that money on a on a

[00:35:07] [SPEAKER_06]: stove that doesn't have any fuel for it you know or or anything you know what i mean that's

[00:35:12] [SPEAKER_06]: just an example but um you know i've always keep you know uh five gallon uh propane tanks

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_06]: you know full stock you know if you're a regular person that likes to use your grill

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_06]: you should have at least two one that's you're using it in a full one to replace it right um

[00:35:31] [SPEAKER_06]: you know if you're prepping maybe you should have five maybe you should have enough of that

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_06]: stuff stocked up maybe you should have uh you know a five gallon can of gas that you use for

[00:35:42] [SPEAKER_06]: your lawnmower because you might still have three gallons in it when you need it in your

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_04]: car and the gas stations aren't you know are 100 100 and that same thing like when you are

[00:35:53] [SPEAKER_04]: storing the stuff like you do the five cans of propane and then you're like oh i'm going to get

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_04]: 20 gallons of gas well make sure you're rotating through that gas and obviously if it's going to

[00:36:05] [SPEAKER_04]: last more than a year then you're going to need to think about stable and stuff like that

[00:36:10] [SPEAKER_04]: i mean really they push for like six months on gas um you're going to want to think about

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_04]: stable and stuff like that and hey every once in a while dump it in it you know at

[00:36:20] [SPEAKER_04]: burn it through the lawnmower burn it through the you know your your old truck or whatever

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_04]: that's not going to care about it i know my old truck doesn't care what gas i put in there

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_04]: it's like whatever is go i mean but that's it i'll throw those cans in there and then

[00:36:36] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah yeah i did have that one car at one point that was like oh no you have to put

[00:36:41] [SPEAKER_06]: premium in here every time right it ain't gonna go right no that i mean that isn't the best

[00:36:46] [SPEAKER_06]: vehicle to have to begin with because you know whatever i mean if you if you want a corvette and

[00:36:53] [SPEAKER_06]: be cool right around you had kevin you had a corvette go ahead but it wasn't a corvette it was

[00:36:58] [SPEAKER_06]: it was a car that was i'm not going to get into it but it was a piece of shit

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_06]: um it was a damn nightmare it was expensive and expensive defects and it was always a

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_04]: problem yeah well that's it you always think oh well if i buy a new car then i'll have no

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_04]: right yeah we won't even talk about the dodge ramp that's all i'm saying yeah

[00:37:21] [SPEAKER_06]: um all right what else we got here um yeah that's about all i got on my list here i wanted to uh

[00:37:31] [SPEAKER_06]: to touch on this i mean this is a good this is a good uh uh podcast to do and i think a

[00:37:37] [SPEAKER_06]: lot of people that a lot of times we do podcasts for people that have never been

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_06]: prepping before and this is really one for the guys that have been prepping um you probably

[00:37:46] [SPEAKER_06]: experienced a lot of this bullshit yourself you know if you've been prepping for a while you

[00:37:51] [SPEAKER_06]: uh you've you know lost some meat you've you know lost some some stuff you've had your toilet

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_06]: paper all chewed up by mice you know you've dealt with this shit before um yep one of the

[00:38:04] [SPEAKER_06]: that i uh am a big fan of is is having a mean ass little cat you know um that's the key he leaves me

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_06]: rats you know almost uh almost weekly oh so you'll be able to eat yeah if you have if you have

[00:38:21] [SPEAKER_06]: um livestock with food and stuff like that you're gonna have problems with rodents

[00:38:27] [SPEAKER_06]: yeah um you know whether it's rats or mice and you know you need you need somebody that's

[00:38:33] [SPEAKER_06]: a pro at getting this stuff you know what i mean that cat looks at you and like this

[00:38:36] [SPEAKER_06]: asshole hasn't caught a mouse in fucking years he's gonna starve to death if i don't leave him

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_05]: this right now we're talking about a cat with like one eye and you know kind of like a lazy

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_05]: you know something going on yeah i'm talking about i've got a nasty junkyard cat that's just

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_06]: real dickhead you know he's the kind of cat that if you pet him too much he's just gonna

[00:38:57] [SPEAKER_06]: claw you up yeah yeah but yeah fluffy that sits there and needs you know the the food in a can

[00:39:04] [SPEAKER_06]: and shit that isn't really you have a declawed indoor cat that's not what i'm talking about

[00:39:10] [SPEAKER_04]: no okay declawed that's fancy all right so anyway you want to uh you have show ideas

[00:39:19] [SPEAKER_04]: thoughts concerns um i know mary some other people have been sending us emails um we've

[00:39:25] [SPEAKER_04]: been looking we're trying to put it all together uh but thoughts concerns show ideas things you care

[00:39:32] [SPEAKER_04]: about shoot us an email at preppingbadass at gmail.com um we have a website uh survive

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_04]: it's the survival and basic badass podcast.com or you can also just do preppingbadass.com

[00:39:46] [SPEAKER_04]: and take you to the same place um make sure you uh check that out that'd be cool we have

[00:39:52] [SPEAKER_04]: email list you can get on there i think i'm gonna get around to bringing that back to life i've

[00:39:57] [SPEAKER_04]: mentioned that before it never happens but one day i'm gonna like kick into gear and get on

[00:40:02] [SPEAKER_04]: that um i am going to uh prepper camp at the end of september you guys might want to check

[00:40:08] [SPEAKER_04]: that out in western north carolina might be a good time i'll be there that's the highlight

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_04]: um rick austin with uh secret garden of survival it's kind of his thing um he'll

[00:40:20] [SPEAKER_04]: be there doing lectures on his greenhouse of survival and and the whole thing so a lot

[00:40:26] [SPEAKER_04]: of cool things going there but uh make sure you check those out and uh yeah otherwise i would

[00:40:33] [SPEAKER_04]: stay safe and we will talk to you guys next week

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