The Ultimate Living Off The Land Challenge!

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[00:01:24] going to basically play out a scenario. So what would happen if you had to live off your land and you couldn't have outside help? And basically, I kind of want to like take an inventory and really see where you're at on your homestead and see where things are and kind of basically find the pitfalls and the shortcomings. As always, we really appreciate if you guys like, subscribe, put comments, that kind of

[00:01:53] thing. It really helps out the channel and keeps it growing and doing things. So we appreciate it. But what kind of world would you have where you'd be stuck on your property? I mean, this could be caused by some kind of EMP event or maybe weather kind of destroyed and shut you down just where

[00:02:18] everything outside your control became useless. Now, I know we all have different properties. Some of us might live in a city environment or the suburbs and whatever. I think most of this scenario, I think we're going to cover all of it because everybody is in a real practical situation and you have to kind of find a solution. And that's what I wanted to do. I wanted to dig into it. Kevin, what are some

[00:02:45] reasons we'd be stuck on our property where we might not be able to go out anywhere? What do you got? Right, right. So there's all sorts of like shelter in place types. There's chemical, biological, radiological attacks. If there's nuclear war, I know that I've looked at the map here and I'd be

[00:03:11] in the radiation zone. You know what I mean? I'd be in my house for two weeks without leaving with, you know, trying not to get cancer. Okay. Martial law, right? Active shooter, but usually that, you know, gets resolved in, you know, a day or two. We did have a man hunt in my neighborhood for about three days though, one time they were down. It can extend a little bit, but we were still allowed to leave. They were just like,

[00:03:40] oh, try not to get shot, you know, whatever. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Martial law, house arrest is one that, you know, you see that a lot in movies and stuff, but you don't, you know, I don't, I don't know who actually gets in under house arrest, you know? The one that comes to mind is Martha Stewart. She had that. You do see, you do see, yeah, inside her training.

[00:04:09] That's right. That's right. You do see a lot of trashy people though, with those ankle monitors. And I think that's basically how it's rest, right? Like you can't leave your neighborhood. You can't leave your, I mean, I don't know what your life is like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, there's a lot of reasons where you might be stuck at home, you know, maybe your car broke down shit. I don't know. But I think we're more talking about just a hypothetical scenario where you're living off

[00:04:38] your land, you know? Right. And I mean, you know, we can frame it. All right. If, you know, you, you have the tiny piece of property and you're in a neighborhood and you and your two neighbors are best buddies. All right. I'll let you trade and barter with your neighbors. You know, if that helps the scenario for you, we can look at that. But bottom line is, you know, and the thing is you can't count it if you're

[00:05:06] not friendly with your neighbors, right? If that guy's a jerk, he's now a problem, not an asset. Not an asset, right? Think about that. So the first thing that I would want to do is I would want to kind of take an inventory and see what I got. Now, obviously certain factors are going to come into play. Like, do I have electricity, right? If I have electricity, I know my fridge and

[00:05:32] freezer are good to go, right? I don't have to worry about it. But if my fridge and freezer are a problem, I need to start canning. I need to start smoking. I need to do something to preserve that food or at least eat it in the right priority, right? All right. These things will last two days. These things will last a day. And do you know how long they'll last? You know, um, I always tell people as a

[00:06:00] general rule, uh, I think that the health department says six hours from 40 to one 40. I usually tell people, you know, just to be safe, let's keep it four hours from 40 to one 40. So below 40 is fridge temp of perfect. It is 38 degree and one 40 is properly cooked. All right. So that's, you know,

[00:06:25] obviously you say, well, Chuck chicken needs to be one 60 and you're, I got you, but think 40 to one 40. All right. Work with me. Um, you know, that's, that's something you need to do is can you maintain this food and keep it at a reasonable temperature or you need to can it, smoke it, do something that's going to preserve it in another way. And you need to think about that. Maybe you can find a way to keep

[00:06:51] it cold. Yeah. Well, I mean, you know, your refrigerator is insulated, you know, it's, it's the power goes out. If you keep those doors closed, it's going to hold that, that cold for a while. Um, another, you know, big factor is how much, how much beer do you have in your refrigerator? You know, if you have it fully stocked with beer that, you know, those liquids are going to hold that temperature and keep your refrigerator cold longer. So just, you mentioned that to the wife,

[00:07:19] always stocked full of beer. Exactly. And it's just going to make the apocalypse that much better. I'm just saying. Now, what are some things you can freeze? Hypothetically, you're, you have electricity. You've got a bunch of food that you eat before it goes bad. What can you throw in the freezer? Um, so you can freeze a lot of stuff. Breads, uh, are great for going in the freezer. Chilis, anything that, you know, cook like that. Raw meat can go in the freezer. Eggs, you can freeze eggs.

[00:07:48] You really want to break them up and scramble them and just put them in a Ziploc bag, but, um, you can freeze, you can freeze eggs. Um, a lot of food can go in the freezer and, and can last a lot longer doing that. You know, if you can't, you're not going to be able to get out for a few weeks, you know, you might want to stick everything you can in the freezer and then see what you've got left that you can eat, you know, while you, while you wait in the meantime. Yeah. I do know bread

[00:08:16] is one of those things when, uh, when that, uh, 19 disaster happened, every, all the stores, nobody had bread and bread was always the crisis. And people seem to burn through the loaves that they had in the first two days anyway. So I'm just saying it's probably not that big of a worry with your bread because people will eat it. It all of a sudden becomes peanut butter sandwich time,

[00:08:43] you know? Yeah. So, so let's, let's talk about stuff that you have already stocked, right? Things that you have in your cabinets that are just going to, you know, that have a long shelf life. Um, you know, hopefully you have plenty of canned foods, vegetables, soups, all that sort of stuff. Uh, hopefully you have, um, dried, uh, freeze dried foods like pasta and rice and things like that.

[00:09:13] Um, a lot of the, the, the, the canned things and the, and the freeze dried food is really, uh, it's really great for long-term storage and you should have a few cabinets full of these types of things, you know, dried beans, uh, rice, all that sort of stuff. Shortage that I see in a lot of people's, um, meat, you know, there's, it's, it's hard to, to preserve it for a long time. You know,

[00:09:42] you want to, you want to have a good supply of beef jerky and, uh, it can be very expensive to, to try and stock up on that, you know, uh, canned meats are, are a little expensive, but you can get canned chicken, canned tuna. Um, you can beef jerky at home. If you have these, it's real easy to, uh, you know, to just make it in your oven, you know, make jerky in your oven. It's not a, not a hard process and you should know how to do it before you need to do it.

[00:10:14] Exactly. And that's the same thing. Like you can kind of smoke that meat on the grill that you have, you know, into some kind of jerky, but figure it out beforehand. I mean, that's the thing. Usually in these scenarios, a lot of them involve the internet and easy access to information going away. You know, that's one of the things people don't realize. Like when nine 11 happened,

[00:10:37] they shut down, you know, phone and a lot of that stuff where you lost a lot of access to that kind of information for that short time in that scenario. But you know, it happens now because they were afraid, you know, a terrorist communicating and that kind of thing. Well, that's something to think about that. It might go away. So do you have that information backed up or preserved? You know, everybody just is like, Oh, well I can YouTube it. I can YouTube anything.

[00:11:06] Um, but maybe you need to start, you know, inventory in this stuff. One of the big things you guys remember, I talked about having that like prepper binder, you know, where if scenarios happen, you have a list of things. One of the big ones I had in there was in case of a nuclear disaster. Cause I'm like, Ooh, you know, if there's like fallout and stuff, there's a good chance that

[00:11:31] a lot of the normal internet and things that I can be looking at might not be available to me. And I need some of those notes of what to do, you know, and, and in a clear list of what to, you know, do and how to prepare. So that's something to keep in mind. Um, another thing that kind of more and more as, as I'm a prepper and time goes on, I feel like, like, you know, we always used to push, Oh, we'll make sure you have like two weeks worth of food. Right. And we

[00:12:01] talk about, you know, storage in my mind now I'm kind of more like your regular pantry and working food should cover that two weeks. And I know that's not typical, but that's the world you should set up that you have enough canned stuff. You have enough, you know, extra stuff. Obviously the fresh food might not, you know, be feasible to have it last two weeks, but do you have enough other things

[00:12:27] in your general pantry that you could carry that two weeks? I feel like that should be there. And then long-term food storage should be more of that more long-term right for stuff that is beyond two weeks. That's my own personal preference, but I think that's going to be relevant when things, you know, get ugly and real. Um, is there any way we can get food outside of our normal food storage

[00:12:57] and refrigerator, Kevin, obviously, you know, I just touched on long-term food storage, you know, maybe my Patriots fly, I'm just saying, but maybe that's something you guys want to keep on hand, but what else could we be doing to get food from our property? Yeah. Now this is a great time of year here. Um, at least, you know, at least in my area, there's all sorts of places that you can, uh, go

[00:13:23] around your, your area that you live and just, you know, what do they call it? Uh, hunter gather, you know, just out there gathering, um, raspberries are, you know, ready to go. Uh, most of the bigger fruit trees aren't, you know, aren't fully blooming yet, but there's a lot of, uh, apples and pears, pears and peaches. Uh, you know, if you had to grow that sort of stuff, ideally, if this situation

[00:13:50] happened, it would be great if it like right in the, right in the fall when all the food is coming in, but you know, aside of that, um, there are foods that you can plant that will grow fast. You know what I mean? Um, vegetables, uh, like lettuces and, and cucumbers and things like that. You can turn around and harvest that in a few weeks, um, you know, from planting to harvesting. And that's a

[00:14:16] big deal. Um, keeping that sort of stuff in mind, you don't want to start, Oh, I was, uh, eggplant seeds, you know, um, you know, that corn that I was planning on, on growing, cause you're not going to be eating that for a few months, you know, that's, that's right. Long-term, you know, well, but there are short-term vegetables that you can get in the ground. Absolutely. And one of the things people are like, Oh, well, I don't have any garden seeds and I'm

[00:14:44] not a gardener and I don't have anything, but there are some things that if this ended up being a long-term event, like potatoes and things that you could actually start from that bag of potatoes that's in your fridge, you know, or, or sitting in your pantry, you know, you have those ones sitting in the dark, cool place in your pantry that maybe they've been there a while. And some of those are starting to make eyes and little sprouts coming out of them. You know, you cut those up when each eye

[00:15:14] becomes a new potato plant. And that can be huge in the future. You know, if you don't have potatoes, that that's one of your big sustainers. If you're doing the survival garden is all I'm saying. It kept Ireland going for a whole, you know, generation there. At least that's the, the rumor. Or maybe they didn't have potatoes. I don't know. I don't know how they did. Right. I mean, I always have that, that, that issue with my compost bin. I'm always growing

[00:15:43] potatoes in there accidentally. Right now we're growing squash. Yeah. Squash in your, in your compost. Now there are other things that, um, as far as, as hunter gatherer type stuff going, I mean, uh, there's a lot of, um, stuff that you might not even know that you can eat on your property. And it's really important to, you know, you should have one of those books of local edible plants. Yep. Yeah. Cause there's a lot of stuff growing that you think is weak.

[00:16:11] Right. Dandons, acorns, all sorts of stuff. But again, there's something you want to look into and find out. Also, you want to find a source of water, a good source of water. Now, some people in Southern California, you're probably not going to have a good source of water on your land. And you really want to have something stored wherever you get from, you can clean it, you know, and I know we've done those about that. Um, but stream water, uh, pool water, rainwater that you have buckets

[00:16:39] laying out in the yard. I don't know what you do, but you know, you can eat water and you can, you can, you know, if you can access water, you can clean water for drinking. Yeah. Now remember most, uh, most pools are now saltwater. That's the new. Yeah. That's no good. If you've got a pool that's saltwater, you might be out of luck there. Um, some other stuff that you can deal with on your own property is as far as hunting and gathering,

[00:17:06] uh, fishing is another great one. Um, firewood, uh, you know, harvesting that stuff. Now you want to make sure your, your firewood is good. You don't want to start cutting down fresh trees and, uh, you know, playing on, on using it. And you're going to have a hard time keeping that fire going if you, if that's your situation. But, um, you know, a lot of people will cut the wood and season it. Right. Um, that's one of the things though, is you need to think about shelter kind of. And,

[00:17:33] and by that, I mean, how are you going to stay warm? You know, how are you going to, maybe that's no, a lot of us, like Kevin said, don't have a fireplace, don't have a wood stove. All right. So what about a kerosene heater and some backup kerosene, you know, that'll buy you some time. Uh, I know in New York, it was very popular for people to have oil furnaces and that was kind of the norm for things. Well, if you had a kerosene heater, you could use that oil, that number two

[00:18:03] heating oil that you use your furnace. Now, big disclaimer here, it gives off black soot and you're going to have ugly black ceilings. If you're using that oil instead of, uh, you know, instead of clean kerosene. Right. But just the same, it would keep you warm. And that's something to keep in mind. You might need to think of a backup plan for your heat. And even if that's some kind of 55 gallon drum,

[00:18:32] you know, heater, even if the family kind of moved into the garage or, you know, I even kind of had plans where I'm like, well, maybe I throw a wood stove in the garage that I can bring into the living room and maybe enough pipe that I could vent it out the window. And by out the window, I mean, like I could make a plywood with a hole cut out for the chimney and run a pipe out, but come up with a scenario that you're going to be able to provide heat for your house.

[00:19:01] And you need to think of something because that is something that, you know, becomes an issue now. So we have food, we have water, Kevin, what are some other water things we could do to kind of, where are we getting water on our property? Yeah. Well, you know, a lot of people have, have access to small streams in their area. A lot of people have access to, uh, springs and stuff that that's great. That's, you know, a spring is,

[00:19:29] is ideal if you can find one around you locally and, you know, this would be a good time to figure out where it is. You know, if you know, there's, there's one on such and such a road that somebody told you about, maybe drive over there and take a look, see if you can find it. Yeah. Um, you know, rainwater is a rainwater catchment is also a big deal. You can catch the water coming down your downspouts. Um, yeah. And, you know, have, have property that they can actually

[00:19:59] hand drive a well. You can dig down and, and the water table, you know, uh, that's not the case for a lot of people. A lot of people you're going to eat, you know, eight, nine hundred feet down to get access to water. But some people have, you know, their water line is fairly close to, or their, their water table is very, fairly close to their ground level, you know? Right. No, that's definitely something to look into. So that's,

[00:20:24] let's, let's kind of shift gears here a little bit. And now, so now that we kind of see that it's kind of hard and kind of crappy to live off what you got, what are some things we could do to make it better? Right. Are there things that we could buy now that could make everything kind of work out? Well, obviously the one is to have food stockpiled, right. To have like some kind of

[00:20:53] long-term food storage plan on your property. And especially like you said, if there was a, a nuclear disaster or something like that, where you really couldn't go outside, where you couldn't, you know, grow things or, you know, we had talked about the magnetic pole shift and how basically the sun and UV could become more intense and it could burn crops and plants a little bit and change the

[00:21:23] growing. You might end up with some kind of acid rain out of that kind of thing. There's a lot of bad things that could happen. And because of that, you know, having food that you don't need to depend on the environment for a little while, having a backup is always a great play. So I'm just saying, just that's something to keep in mind. Having an established garden, having things already growing,

[00:21:51] then that takes the pressure off huge. You know, if you're like, Oh, but I have a giant garden outside that's already 30% of my family's diet. That that's a big thing right there. Right. You just extended, you know, how long, you know, if you had two weeks now you have three weeks of food, you know, that's a big thing. So having that stuff planned out and, and going in advance

[00:22:17] are things that are going to be a game changer. And I guess this is why, you know, as preppers, we're always talking about these things like, Hey, let's get that rain catchment set up. So I have that one more backup, you know, of things that are always happening and ready to go and, you know, established, especially if you have some kind of livestock, right.

[00:22:42] Right. Um, you know, being able to water those animals and keep that feed going. That's a big thing. Um, obviously, you know, having chickens, right. Getting eggs every day, all of a sudden you have sustainable food. Um, maybe you have some chickens that you can eat. You know, you guys know, I always push my rabbits, right. You have some sustainable meat that can keep going

[00:23:06] and prolong things like that. Um, the, uh, so food rabbits, chickens, pigs, you know, cool. Yeah. But you know, I understand it's not practical for everybody to have a farm, you know, on their property and that's, you know, I mean, I get that, right. We're not all, you know, crazy prepper Chuck, right. We're not crazy homestead guy. We might be little, you know, things going. So keep that in

[00:23:36] mind. Um, what other tools are there cool gadgets, Kevin out there that come to mind or anything like that, that you like, you know, things like, yeah, I mean, the, the, there's all sorts of, uh, water filters on the market and, um, you know, life straw there's, there's, I mean, there's too many to name. There's hundreds of them. And most of them are, are decent products, you know, and you might want to

[00:24:02] have something like that on hand. Camp stoves, camp stoves are great. I was going to say like those filter pumps are pretty great. You know, where you can pump the water into a, in the containers. Those seem to work, you know, life straws, those Sawyer little ones when you're on the go, that's awesome. But having something kind of for the homestead, it's bigger, you know, they have the big Berkey water filter systems. They have different things, but something where, you know, you can go to

[00:24:30] the stream and pump out clean water. That would be awesome. And something to think about like that. Yeah. Yes. Uh, so I was talking about, um, um, you want to have ways to cook your food and, and we talked about, you know, cooking over a fire and smoking and having a grill around is, is great. I remember, um, uh, living in an apartment complex when I was a youngster with, uh, down when I was in the Navy and, uh, there's some lunatic that lived next door to me.

[00:24:59] And, uh, we had a, uh, what was the category three hurricane? And, um, he was bragging about, you know, all the power was out. He's bragging about how he was the only one with, uh, food. And he was out there at a hurricane with his grill going like some sort of a lunatic. He had it chained up to a metal post and was out there cooking food in the middle of a hurricane. I think he could have waited an hour, you know, you probably would have survived, but right. Right. It was the,

[00:25:26] that would have been the other way. Yeah. Yeah, no, exactly. Um, yeah, no, Kevin, you were too busy out with the, uh, American flag in the street, you know, holding it with the hurricane. Is that what was happening? Yeah, that was me. Yeah. That picture is, uh, that's me. Um, let's talk real quick about, uh, power generation, um, generating power when the, when you have our failures with that sort of stuff. A lot of people have, um, generators. That's great.

[00:25:52] You know, having a, uh, gas power generator, um, you know, that's great for as long as you can, can get gas. And most people, you know, if you know what a hurricane's coming, if you know, there's a disaster coming, you can go out and fill up 10, 15 gallons of, uh, of fuel to have just stored and ready to go. Um, yeah, but for longer term stuff, there's a lot of, uh, excellent solar

[00:26:18] power, uh, setups that you have that you can get. Um, there's, there's wind turbines that you can get. I know a lot of people in the midwind turbines for, you know, multiple different stuff on their farms. Um, and there's hydro you can use, do hydro. It's a much more difficult to set up and you have to have the right, you know, the right property and the right, uh, you know, water coming through

[00:26:45] for it to actually work. But I mean, I don't know your life. I think exactly. Um, one thing that we should mention is, is, uh, pooping. Everybody poops. Oh, I've read a book. Uh, you, you don't want to, uh, you know, just be leaving little turds all over, all over the lawn and, and hope that everything's going to be fine. You, you kind of want to get a good set, uh, set up, you know, something, um,

[00:27:14] you know, dig a hole there and, uh, you know, an outhouse has that. It's great, you know, poop in until it's full and then cover it up with dirt and move your outhouse over a little bit. Um, you can, you can still shit in your toilet if you have enough water to use to flush it. Yeah. So you can flush the toilet and you have a septic tank. Right. Um, I know, I know a lot of, uh,

[00:27:41] situations that, um, there's a hurricane, uh, hurricane Irene, I think it was a few years ago in this area. And, uh, all the sewage plants were, were flooded because they're in the lower areas, you know, gravity fed, but they're in the lower areas of the town. And so everybody that was flushed in their toilet was just going straight out into the streams. Now, absolutely. Yeah,

[00:28:05] absolutely. That water can end up in the, uh, you know, into the, uh, the streams, the poos and everything. And then you don't want to be the guy up river, down river, whatever down river, I guess that's drinking the poos. So, you know, it's awkward when it gets on your lip and everything people can see, and they're like, Oh, you got a little, you know, you don't want that.

[00:28:29] That's it. That's a no go. So that's something to keep in mind. Um, yeah, no solar having some kind of backup power and, you know, Kevin had mentioned the generators, but if you're doing the generators, you need a way to keep them running. Do you have enough gas? Do you have maybe one that runs off propane? That's awesome. And you have a big propane tank for heat. And then you're able to keep that generator going a lot longer. You know, if it happens in the right

[00:28:58] months, you know, you can prioritize heat or, or, uh, you know, keeping stuff like that. I mean, that's where like the gas stove, whatever comes into play. I mean, my plan, I think I end up with the outdoor fire, you know, heated kitchen when the apocalypse comes is kind of my personal plan, you know, is to have a way to cook outside. And like that, cause I do have electric, you know, right now for my stove and that kind of stuff.

[00:29:27] Maybe, uh, we should talk about having some board games, having some stuff around to keep the kids from going crazy, keep yourself from going crazy books, that sort of stuff. Yeah. It's always good to keep that sort of stuff. Uh, you know, I know we've mentioned it in other podcasts. I think, um, you know, mental, mental health. Yeah. Yeah. Get, get your, uh, Jenga set out and get your, uh, you know, candy land, uh, make sure you have all, have all that stuff ready to go.

[00:29:55] Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, that that's huge to, you know, have that kind of thing, have the options where you can, you know, keep things going for the family, keep it, uh, peaceful, if you will, you know, not having everybody ready to kill each other can be a big, you know, game changer, you know? I mean, that's one of the big things, right? You hear, oh, we're not leaving our house. Oh, that, that might be stressful for people, you know?

[00:30:23] Yeah. So keep that in mind. Um, but also that's where chores and activities and having something to do, but also you need to keep in mind for mental health that it's a big disruption to people's routine and that really can mess with people. So you do have to find a way to be patient and that's where some positive things, you know, come in and, and really help, you know, having that stash of

[00:30:49] chocolate bars somewhere that you can break out and be like, Hey, but today's going to be a good day because everything's better with chocolate or whatever, you know, I don't know. Um, maybe don't break it out too quick. You got to save it till people start getting miserable and then sneak it in there. You know, that's the trick, but I don't know. That's it. Um, yeah, no, I just think,

[00:31:13] you know, it's always a good time to take an inventory and see where you're at and where you're at on your homestead and where the weak links are, you know, where things could be improved, you know, maybe building the outhouse, you know, on the property is something is an option. If you had like, yeah, I don't know if you were going to have sewer problems, keeping your septic tank pumped out,

[00:31:38] that's an option that, you know, you know, if you keep it reasonably clean, if you're right on the edge and you're pushing it, things could go bad. Things could get messy. If you will, that, that was me trying to not use profanity that one time right there. That was it. Um, and things could get messy. And so planning ahead like that, setting up some solar options, maybe having a backup charge controller,

[00:32:07] realizing you have options like car batteries and things like that, that you could assist, you know, your setup and make things a little bit better. Uh, you know, cause if you're not driving your car anywhere, then that battery is not doing anything, but if it was sitting in the, in the solar bank, then you'd be good to go. So those are things to think about. Think outside the box a little bit, you know, keep a little firewood on hand, keep that extra food storage. That's the

[00:32:36] kind of stuff that's going to make a big difference on whether you survive or whether you don't, you know, if things go bad and we keep seeing things in the world that it can get a little hairy out there. So with that, I would say you have thoughts, concerns, email us at prepping badass at gmail.com. You may want to check out, uh, survival and basic badass podcast.com.

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